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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-11-14 22:26:50 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.

Quantum Rise, Dominion...

Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal.


We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say.


I had thought the chain of causation went the other way, probably because of the order information was released.

Capsuleers start pushing out of CONCORD's reach, dropping POCOs and the like, getting an upper hand on the empires. This spooks the pirate factions, who then try to carry out experiments to give them an edge over the capsuleers. We find these and this scares the hell out of CONCORD.


Maybe so. Key takeaway, though, is CONCORD going "No you can't have that" and capsuleers going "**** YOU DAD I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!"

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Frying Doom
#62 - 2013-11-14 22:30:44 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.

Quantum Rise, Dominion...

Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal.


We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say.

Shouldn't that mean that CONCORD and the empires would scan for these contraband items on ships entering their space and confiscate them, just like drugs? Giving you a sec status hit as well?

People using these items would be criminals and should be free to be shot down for the non-traitorous pod pilots, CONCORD and the Empires.

Does any part of this story line include things for people who do not want to betray the empires?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Slarti
One Man and His Drake
#63 - 2013-11-14 22:31:08 UTC
One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#64 - 2013-11-14 22:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.

This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.

Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.



It's a trailer lol.

You don't like anything, do you?


I like the lore.

I loath how CONCORD is getting depicted more and more, from these live events to Rubicon.

I loath how we pave the way of the future with hidden armories of pirate nations, who are supposed to be poorer than the four nations and not nearly as technologically advanced. (Sure the Macharial was stolen tech from the Jove but nothing else up to this point in the lore has made any mention to the existing of this tech or "ghost" armories.)

Furthermore, do you HAVE to condemn the four empires with each subsequent expansion from here on out? Is that an excuse to stop writing about them? (When was, for example, the last time you hear anything from the Empress?)

Rubicon caters to the players. I got that. As a role-player, it's just grim to watch the entities of power you've come to love go to ****.


mynnna wrote:

Maybe so. Key takeaway, though, is CONCORD going "No you can't have that" and capsuleers going "**** YOU DAD I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!"


Something tells me you really don't know about the lore much. Which is scary considering you're supposed to be a CSM.


-_-

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Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2013-11-14 22:33:18 UTC
Slarti wrote:
One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player



Yes no handi-cap rails for the socially challenged.

NEED MOAR HAND RAILS IN TH E CRAPPER RIGHT NAO!!!
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#66 - 2013-11-14 22:34:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Karrl Tian wrote:
So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew?


So, you are finally seeing the light as well........

Ghost sites as the main feature for a trailer and an expansion ?

This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible.

I'm thinking it's time for a little break and see if something new is actually going on in a year or so.

When I told my Dad (in his 80's) about what was new in Odyssey when he asked I said "They have made the exploration both easy and stupid.....and they have changed the mineral content of Null Sec ores" he just wondered about what happened to all the exciting things I was talking about 3 years ago. Sigh.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-11-14 22:35:18 UTC
actually goiong to go youtube all of the trailers...

but yeah so far this and butterfly effect are my favorite
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-11-14 22:35:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Slarti wrote:
One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player

Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?


(edit: unless you literally mean players who are not married, in which case I don't understand your point.)
Kasumi 'Goto
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-11-14 22:36:14 UTC
The trailer was good but I think ccp has done better. my main issue with it is at the end. Why does the stratios which is an armor tanker have such a big issue with losing its shields ?
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
#70 - 2013-11-14 22:36:47 UTC
The way that the battleships warped in... Zzzzzip-stop-on-a-dime is that how warping will look now rather than the ssssssslowdown-to-a-crawl we have now?
If so, NICE!

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Rekkr Nordgard
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#71 - 2013-11-14 22:37:48 UTC
And what about those of us who wish to remain loyalists to our chosen factions and don't want to participate in this arbitrary "rift" CCP has decided to impose on us? What options will CCP provide us with to interact with, incorporate into, and assist the empires? My guess is none; that we're going to be forced to watch as the Eve lore is punted and highsec gets turned into little nullsec.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#72 - 2013-11-14 22:38:19 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Karrl Tian wrote:
So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew?

This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible.

Yeah, but any of those "patches" were easily better than incarna, tyrannis, or dominion.
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#73 - 2013-11-14 22:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Slarti wrote:
One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player

Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?


I think he means individual recognition for putting stock in the four empires, or CONCORD for that matter.

Nope, they've got to all turn into stereotypical pointless antagonists for the sake of more internet spaceships…

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Jaro Essa
Dahkur Forge
#74 - 2013-11-14 22:38:56 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.


Who's to say that the interface the pod provides doesn't consist of a representation of the pilot's body and a synthetic environment as well as the interface itself?

Maybe it feels like you are, say, sitting in a chair at a desk, with the interface displayed in front of you, and you can manipulate that interface to fly the ship.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#75 - 2013-11-14 22:40:30 UTC
Crash Lander wrote:
Nice timing with the release of X-rebirth. One could almost say it is a coincidence Smile


Yes, and right when CCP decided to launch their expansion two weeks earlier than usual and the same day as X-Rebirth will be released in the USA.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-11-14 22:44:14 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:


Something tells me you really don't know about the lore much. Which is scary considering you're supposed to be a CSM.


-_-


um

lol

pretty sure being a lore expert isn't a requirement, soz bro.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#77 - 2013-11-14 22:47:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
...or perhaps the big deals are the deployables and warp speed changes? With, content-wise, Ghost Sites and SOE ships being the thing?

It's just that Ghost Sites are the most relevant to the story in the immediate sense, while the rest tie into the longer-term narrative.

Also; Isis Dea; one could say, for instance, that the neural interface in some cases uses a simulated body experience (massively accelerated) to prevent mindlock, by preserving the person's ego or self as they interface with the ship. Either way, the 'pod' scenes we see are clearly simulated.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#78 - 2013-11-14 22:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Frying Doom wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.

Quantum Rise, Dominion...

Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal.


We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say.

Shouldn't that mean that CONCORD and the empires would scan for these contraband items on ships entering their space and confiscate them, just like drugs? Giving you a sec status hit as well?

People using these items would be criminals and should be free to be shot down for the non-traitorous pod pilots, CONCORD and the Empires.

Does any part of this story line include things for people who do not want to betray the empires?


Yes. They're sent to a null slaughterhouse after 23 jumps of 10% Tidi so they learn to not bother CCP with what CCP doesn't wants to deliver. What?

Slarti wrote:
One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player


Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#79 - 2013-11-14 22:51:40 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Slarti wrote:
One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player

Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?


(edit: unless you literally mean players who are not married, in which case I don't understand your point.)

Maybe we're just wrong and have been playing the game not as intended?

Who would have known that a Massive Multiplayer Online Game was mainly meant to play alone?
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#80 - 2013-11-14 22:52:44 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12

An RP'er and and an internet spaceships bible thumper......oh dear. Do you also Larp?