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So here's the thing. You know full well that EVE players will abuse the hell out of anything that can be abused even slightly — it's just the nature of the game. So what is it with this recent policy of “wait and see if people abuse the hell out of it”? Especially in the face of everyone+dog saying that, hey, we can abuse the hell out of this thing…

Anchored cans offer services previously only available from POSes and stations now? Come on.

48h + 10 minutes is pretty silly on both ends of the spectrum: too long and too short, respectively. Halve one and increase the other by a factor of 10 or 20, and it becomes far more reasonable. The owner still has eons of time to save his stuff — an advantage that is unique to this change-I-found-in-the-sofa-costing structure compared to every other deployable out there.

I can understand that you want to see these things in wide-spread use, but piling on so many advantages will lead to abuse, which means you have to annoy people later when their fancy swiss-army deployable inevitably has to be made sensible again.

Who said that they would have to start anchoring things during the fight ?
Nope. Here is a better plan for wormholers :

1- At the beggining of your PVE activities on a site, have the carrier anchor a mobile depot with all the dreads around it.
2- Have a subcap ship put the depot in reinforced just because you can. (In this precise case you don't care since the carrier also allows you to refit, but reinforcing the structure deactivates the refitting ability on sisi currently)
3- If something bad happens like PVP or PVE failure, just unfit everything, put it all into the carrier corp hangar bay. The carrier then puts the stuff into the mobile depot and everything is secure ! (Might be more complicated with capital modules but other very expensive and small modules can be saved)
4- ???
5- Profit

3B - If nothing bad happens, just scoop back the mobile depot into your cargohold.
4- Move on to the next site, repeat.

It's next to impossible to remove. That's bad in and of itself. The kind of tactics that will develop that centres on this characteristic is largely unknown, I'll grant you, but they'll certainly share that one bad characteristic themselves, which is bad too.

It's not so much the litter — that'll solve itself with its decay period — but rather the fact that it allows for character littering as well to a vastly higher extent than before. The depots will get rid of themselves; getting rid of the people suddenly becomes a whole lot harder.

Nice secure stash for lo sec and null pirates, raiders, ratters and explorers. Site runners will probably be the main users of ship fittings though. All of them can stash ammo and loot there when systems have no stations.

But if you want miners to move into lo sec -- a version of the mobile base that has more storage would be great 65K to 360K ideally at 25K-50K ISK. Heck most us would even trade away the ship fitting except maybe drone swapping. BIGGEST SECURE CAN ever. :)

Miner orgasm would be if you could link overflow from mobile tractor storage to a miner's version of the mobile depot.

I would be disappointed if there isn't already a GARPA team working on answering your question.

Some new things others have already mentioned, that might not have been intended:
* Chance to save one or more high-value modules before destruction.
* Being able to swap ECM modules for the target's weaknesses. A gatecamp Falcon's wet-dream.
* A very large drone bay.

-Well, if there is something shiny in there, you've got a reason to put up the effort involved in killing it, and you can be moderately confident that the owner will come for it. Content generated. Plus, if you're getting your ass beat that hard, they can probably nuke the depot before it anchors.
-Really annoying, but mostly gratuitous, and not really abuse in any event. It will hardly be the only example of rapid refitting to situational counters.
-Again, limitations on use in combat (e.g. even brawling ships move around quite a lot). Plus, you have to get the drones into the depot, which means you're still constrained by the ship's cargo hold. Out of combat, doesn't seem unintended, and helps mitigate the low endurance of drone ships.

edit: Ono, the targedy. My killmails might be worth a bit less. I take it all back. CCP, you need to ditch this right away. It will ruin Eve.

Dear CCP,

About mobile depot, You need to increase the activation time.

Because now it's possible to abuse a lot.

First case : Dread fleet, you don't need to have carrier to refit, all dread need to have one or two mobile depot for refitting (hardener or tracking or capa etc).

Second case : dominix or other drone fleet, you can add some extra drone on your cargo and add them on the drone bay during the fight.

etc ...

We need to increase massively the activation time. The minimum must be 10 minutes.

Also that will be a great idea to add some structure to steal the offline pos.

Mobile breaking offline control tower (or something like that)

The effort needed to kill just one is hilariously unreasonable.

So will Mobile Tractor Unit tractor a loot yelow wrecks in high sec, or only owners ones(white) and abondoned(blue) ?




1. Mobile Tractor Unit
2. Gank stufff
3. ...
4. Profit!

Hey all! CCP Lebowski here to trawl the thread and answer questions that fell by the wayside.


The Mobile Tractor Unit can only be opened by the owner, but can be killed by anyone. When killed it will drop a proportion of its loot.

A cyno that is already up will finish its current cycle then deactivate.

The fitting service does NOT work during the Depots activation or during reinforcement, meaning the best way to stop it being effective is shooting it before it comes online or shooting it into reinforcement once it is. In addition to this, depots cannot be rescooped while they are activating, giving aggressors a chance to kill them before the owner can do anything to save them.