These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Player Features and Ideas Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next pageLast page
 

[SHIP] A Design for the SoE Battleship, the Nestor

Author
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2013-11-13 22:07:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits.

So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this:

My design for the Nestor.

I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together.

I also wrote some improvised stats up for it :

Hi- 7
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 5

Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

HAS NO SENSOR RECALIBRATION TIME REDUCTION. (to keep the cloak from being OP)

Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others)

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
10% bonus to drone damage and hit points

I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.

Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design Lol

Thanks for reading.


EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%.
EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot.
EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus.
EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again.
EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4.
EDIT: Gave 1 High Power slot back, added 1 Turret Hard Point.
EDIT: Mentioned that it has no sensor recalibration time reduction.
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#2 - 2013-11-13 22:11:33 UTC
Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2013-11-13 22:12:33 UTC
Michael Harari wrote:
Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?

I said I was aiming high Roll This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing Lol
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#4 - 2013-11-13 22:14:01 UTC
I liked your drawing but I'm not so sure on the rest..
NezMonik
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-11-13 22:14:25 UTC
Fantastic Idea! There is one problem I see; there is no room to add in the necessary Drone Control Units to optimally use the drone bandwidth. Therefor to compensate I would recommend a fitting bonus for the DCU, thereby making it a reasonable cloaky/drone boat. Nothing to outrageous.
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#6 - 2013-11-13 22:15:16 UTC
Also, im pretty sure star destroyers are already done to death.
Ueberlisk
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2013-11-13 22:16:25 UTC
looks like a suitable ship for the king. i would double the drone bandwidth and give it +5 extra drones(+1 per level from gallente).
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#8 - 2013-11-13 22:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Michael Harari wrote:
Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?


I'm not sure where you're getting this kind of ridiculous attitude from. OP may have used a 5% bonus that no longer exists instead of a 4% bonus like he should have (and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus) but other than that the proposed stats look roughly like a scaled-up version of the Stratios. The drone bonuses might be a little excessive though.

Anyway, that Star Destroyer model is pretty meaningless since it's the same placeholder that every ship gets when it hasn't got a model of its own. The Dragoon had that exact same model during the development of Retribution.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2013-11-13 22:16:54 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
I liked your drawing but I'm not so sure on the rest..

Well i just went with drones, primarily- and the gal BS bonus is identical to the Dominix. Also, it has 1 more slot than the Machariel total, so yeah, maybe take one off. But like I said, it's kind of an OP base stats idea.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#10 - 2013-11-13 22:18:29 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Michael Harari wrote:
Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?


I'm not sure where you're getting this kind of ridiculous attitude from. OP may have used a 5% bonus that no longer exists instead of a 4% bonus like he should have (and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus) but other than that the proposed stats look roughly like a scaled-up version of the Stratios. The drone bonuses might be a little excessive though.

Anyway, that Star Destroyer model is pretty meaningless since it's the same placeholder that every ship gets when it hasn't got a model of its own. The Dragoon had that exact same model during the development of Retribution.

I see then, about the 5%- the Abaddon has a 4%.. that should be it.

But the Gallente BS bonus is identical to the Dominix's, actually Big smile
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#11 - 2013-11-13 22:19:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Michael Harari wrote:
Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?

I said I was aiming high Roll This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing Lol


With writing like that you should be a Doctor in RL my friend Blink. Just a teasing comment, not trolling, but I really like that you put that much effort in and your drawing skills far exceed mine. This looks like an actual "draft concept" piece of art that I'm sure are done and similar to what they did for the new Char Selection Screen for Rubicon so you get a "Bloody good effort" from me for that alone.

As for the SoE Battleship...I think we should just let CCP push out the thread for feedback and then let them know what we think about their concept. They are in the best position to propose something in-line with all ships of all races and classes to make this not OP and if not then we can add our thoughts and hopefully it will be revised (see Marauder changes for Rubicon thread).

Like your enthusiasm though OP, and top marks for effort.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#12 - 2013-11-13 22:31:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I see then, about the 5%- the Abaddon has a 4%.. that should be it.

But the Gallente BS bonus is identical to the Dominix's, actually Big smile

I'm not sure where you see Dominix's bonus as 10% unless you live in a cave or in the past.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-odyssey-1.1
Quote:
Ship Balancing

The Dominix will have its bonus to drone tracking and optimal range reduced from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.


Also:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Well i just went with drones, primarily- and the gal BS bonus is identical to the Dominix. Also, it has 1 more slot than the Machariel total, so yeah, maybe take one off. But like I said, it's kind of an OP base stats idea.

General CCP policy is for drone boats to have 1 less slot than any gunship of their class. So make it 19 total.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2013-11-13 22:34:18 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I see then, about the 5%- the Abaddon has a 4%.. that should be it.

But the Gallente BS bonus is identical to the Dominix's, actually Big smile

I'm not sure where you see Dominix's bonus as 10% unless you live in a cave or in the past.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-odyssey-1.1
Quote:
Ship Balancing

The Dominix will have its bonus to drone tracking and optimal range reduced from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.

Ah- whoops, I had searched "Doninix Stats" and was looking at thisLol

But maybe a higher (if only slightly higher) bonus could work... after all, it's a Pirate Faction Battleship.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#14 - 2013-11-13 22:41:19 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus

armor res bonus with local rep power is ok because ... *cough*... Damnation. Local rep bonus can be normalized to standard 7.5% per level. Certainly you'll have ultimate PvE drone boat as the outcome, but that will allow to rebalance Rattlesnake (and a whole Guristas ships line) in a proper pirate-faction missile boat (there are none atm).

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#15 - 2013-11-13 22:44:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus

armor res bonus with local rep power is ok because ... *cough*... Damnation. Local rep bonus can be normalized to standard 7.5% per level. Certainly you'll have ultimate PvE drone boat as the outcome, but that will allow to rebalance Rattlesnake (and a whole Guristas ships line) in a proper pirate-faction missile boat (there are none atm).

And then we'd finally get a Caldari-Minmatar line of ships Smile I'm looking forward to the Pirate Ship rebalance- there will be plenty of people complaining about their precious incursion ships (think marauders) Lol A lot of good things could come of it too, though.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#16 - 2013-11-13 22:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
@Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
you got domi bonus wrong. it should be (overall bonuses):
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness per level.
7.5% bonus to drone optimal range and tracking speed per level.

Amarr battleship bonus:
10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints.
4% bonus to armor resistances per level.

Role bonus:
37.5% increased strength for scan probes.

Edit: swapped rep power bonus with drone damage one to match racial bonuses.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#17 - 2013-11-13 23:00:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
@Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
you got domi bonus wrong. it should be (overall bonuses):
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness per level.
7.5% bonus to drone optimal range and tracking speed per level.

Amarr battleship bonus:
10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints.
4% bonus to armor resistances per level.

Role bonus:
37.5% increased strength for scan probes.

Edit: swapped rep power bonus with drone damage one to match racial bonuses.

Thanks- that's what I wanted Smile I'll change that in the OP.

Or... maybe I'll mix it up a little Big smile
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-11-14 00:13:10 UTC
Oh look. Its an OP version of my idea.
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-11-14 00:22:42 UTC
I'm pretty sure CCP will never use your exact stats. They'll come up with their own.

Nestor... It sounds like a little boy to me. It's slightly disturbing.
Vypri
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-11-14 03:15:39 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Michael Harari wrote:
Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?

I said I was aiming high Roll This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing Lol


Looks like a Hurricane.....on roids.
123Next pageLast page