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Dev blog: The New Character Selection Screen

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BugraT WarheaD
#81 - 2013-11-12 12:10:50 UTC
Have you noticed that when you try to toggle to remove, in that log in screen, the UI by pressing CTRL+F9 you only have a black screen ?
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#82 - 2013-11-12 12:17:36 UTC
Aijle Mijleroff wrote:
All good, but I don't like new button for terminate character.
New button for terminate character screen looks like button in windows for close program screen , it may confuse people. If only not 10 hour delay for terminate characters YOU CCP will have big problems after patch Twisted


draw a skull in place of the cross there


This same thing caught my eye. In UI's the cross is, generally, very much related to closing a window whereas what's done here is something completely different.

Closing a window, terminating a character.

Two distinctly different things, wouldn't you agree?

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Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#83 - 2013-11-12 13:46:09 UTC
CCP Fear wrote:
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
Thats great and all.... but the background looks rather RED....

Can I please have mine in BLUE...?

(It's medical - thanks)


Maybe in the next expansion!


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Maul555
Xen Investments
#84 - 2013-11-12 14:03:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Maul555
Sable Moran wrote:
Aijle Mijleroff wrote:
All good, but I don't like new button for terminate character.
New button for terminate character screen looks like button in windows for close program screen , it may confuse people. If only not 10 hour delay for terminate characters YOU CCP will have big problems after patch Twisted


draw a skull in place of the cross there


This same thing caught my eye. In UI's the cross is, generally, very much related to closing a window whereas what's done here is something completely different.

Closing a window, terminating a character.

Two distinctly different things, wouldn't you agree?


This, yeah... I want a minefield of warnings and very clear messages between me and character termination... And even then, I want a way to undo the termination...

BTW, on a slightly related note: If this character is ever deleted, call the cops, because I have probably been kidnapped or killed, or otherwise coerced by force...
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#85 - 2013-11-12 14:16:40 UTC
CCP Fear wrote:

It does show both. If there is a completed skill since last log-in then it will display that. If there is no change, i.e. no completed skills, then it will show the total SP.

Thats my point. It shows one, or the other, not "both"....if i've completed a skill since my last log-in, it no longer displays my SP total, it switches to show the number of skills i've completed since my last log-in. It does not "show both". That would require it to show BOTH how many skills have been completed since last log-in AND SP total...at the same time.

That was my point, its one or the other, not both.

But as others have asked, what was inherently so wrong and broken with the old log-in that it required dev time devoted to it, instead of known broken mechanics and other parts of the game that many consider need fixing?

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#86 - 2013-11-12 14:25:24 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
(...)

Also, about the devblog call about aesthetics, immersion etc.: which goal did you achieve by brutally taking away one of the most beloved start up features, that is a beautiful music and awesome log in animated scene?

THOSE things, and not 3 buttons, defined EvE since the first glance.


So, please re-evaluate your goals on the light of what players need and liked, not just to speed up a couple of clicks.


Well, they implemented their own version of yet another godawful industry-standard launcher, which served some goal.

Albeit the new screen is obviously better than the old one, even the worst of the old login screens beat it to a pulp. And to me, EVE will always be associated to this.

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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#87 - 2013-11-12 17:37:24 UTC
No news feeds on the side. Sad
Please bring them back.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#88 - 2013-11-12 17:44:48 UTC
Will we get a new login music at each expansion again ?

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ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
#89 - 2013-11-12 18:24:32 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
No news feeds on the side. Sad
Please bring them back.

But how long do you keep the client open? Also, that's already in the launcher.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#90 - 2013-11-12 19:15:29 UTC
ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
No news feeds on the side. Sad
Please bring them back.

But how long do you keep the client open? Also, that's already in the launcher.

News feeds are very useful. I don't use the launcher because it is awful, slow and needs more clicks.

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Reachok
Cydaen Awareness
#91 - 2013-11-13 00:17:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Reachok
Will we ever be able to log out to the character selection screen to change characters? As opposed to how we currently have to re-launch the game from the launcher in order to do so?

The bad guys went the other way, seriously....
ASadOldGit
Doomheim
#92 - 2013-11-13 01:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ASadOldGit
I realise that you have branding issues to consider, but perhaps one day you could allow us to choose a particular wallpaper from a past expansion (or make a variety of wallpapers available per expansion)?

A couple of issues though; could be trickier if they're also animated with their own soundtrack, and which expansion name would you display - the current one or the one the wallpaper belonged to?

I like the look of it, though. But, if there's a skill in training, does it just list the skill, or also how much time is left on it?

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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#93 - 2013-11-13 14:14:18 UTC
ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
No news feeds on the side. Sad
Please bring them back.

But how long do you keep the client open? Also, that's already in the launcher.

Actually I have no idea for how long, but I do read some news there. You can read almost entire article if it's short and a few paragraphs if it's long and decide for yourself is it interesting or not for you and should you read on, you can't do that in the launcher 'cause it shows only headers.
It was a neat feature in my opinion and it would be nice to have it back.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#94 - 2013-11-13 15:33:15 UTC
Will there be an option to switch characters without logging out completely? Apologies, I don't have time to sift through this thread to see if it's been answered.

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#95 - 2013-11-13 16:22:04 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
wizardz wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Awesome!

So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;)

this!

No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue.
Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)



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Tasha Saisima
Doomheim
#96 - 2013-11-13 21:39:52 UTC
Screen needs to show if you have contracts assigned to you. It's a pain just to fully log in, check for contacts, and then log off again if you don't have any.

Also need to switch characters without relaunching the client
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#97 - 2013-11-14 03:10:34 UTC
Posting in a give us a switch character button thread and I agree +10.

On a side note, someone mentioned a character screen. Looks good! P
Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
#98 - 2013-11-14 10:34:02 UTC
honestly, i dont like it! why? 2 words

needlessly simple

The character selection comes without any pewpew effects or fancy crazy moving character models which doesnt really fit into a game like EVE !



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Volster
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#99 - 2013-11-14 14:07:54 UTC
[sheds a single tear for the old character screen]


No doubt a lot of time and hard work's gone into this, and I know at this stage bitching about it is largely futile but for what it's worth, i really don't care for the new character selection screen.

Admittedly my main gripe is mainly stemming from a particularly severe case of bittervet syndrome. Nevertheless the fact that the character screen remained unchanging through all these years gave me solace against the relentless onslaught of ui changes, and i'll be sad to see yet another part of eve's legacy swept into the abyss.
IceGuerilla
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2013-11-14 17:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: IceGuerilla
So, we still can't return to character selection by logging out?
8+ years since I started playing and this is still not implemented?

So, overall the work you've done is good. The only thing left now is to throw it into a ******* bin, for all the useful functionality you've added.