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Kialopreyst
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#301 - 2013-11-13 13:06:08 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Erotica 1, I honestly thought you were just up to wacky hijinks and I was wondering why goons were coming down on you so much until I finally got around to looking at your thread on the goonfleet dot com top secret forums no spies allowed and saw those pictures and now I feel really creeped out.

My whole problem with Somer Blink was the way they used internet spaceships and compulsions to manipulate people's weaknesses in ways that could damage their real lives and now I have that exact same problem with you. This is a computer game on the internet and like all things on the internet it attracts some mentally shaky people and that needs to be taken into account.

I don't want to say mean things to you, though, I just want to ask you politely to reflect on your behavior and consider the larger effects of your actions.


Are you saying he solicited images of his scam victims and has now posted them onto your forums?


Well somebody from goonswarm did eve mail some of those pictures to people on this forum.


beancounter/Erotica 1 has been dealt with. Hopefully WIdot will do the right thing and purge this guy.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#302 - 2013-11-13 13:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Marzetti
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Erotica 1, I honestly thought you were just up to wacky hijinks and I was wondering why goons were coming down on you so much until I finally got around to looking at your thread on the goonfleet dot com top secret forums no spies allowed and saw those pictures and now I feel really creeped out.

My whole problem with Somer Blink was the way they used internet spaceships and compulsions to manipulate people's weaknesses in ways that could damage their real lives and now I have that exact same problem with you. This is a computer game on the internet and like all things on the internet it attracts some mentally shaky people and that needs to be taken into account.

I don't want to say mean things to you, though, I just want to ask you politely to reflect on your behavior and consider the larger effects of your actions.


Are you saying he solicited images of his scam victims and has now posted them onto your forums?


Well somebody from goonswarm did eve mail some of those pictures to people on this forum.


That person should also revisit his or her choices, then, just as I requested of Erotica 1. Or is this some kind of really dumb tu quoque attempt? Because if it is, it is a particularly dumb one, even for you.


I think he may be pointing out the blatant fake concern/outrage for political mileage.


Never miss an opportunity for grr goons, evenespecially if it makes you look dumb.
Prince Kobol
#303 - 2013-11-13 13:25:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Johnny Marzetti wrote:


Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.


I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there.

Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well.

Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults?

If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person.
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#304 - 2013-11-13 13:30:12 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Erotica 1, I honestly thought you were just up to wacky hijinks and I was wondering why goons were coming down on you so much until I finally got around to looking at your thread on the goonfleet dot com top secret forums no spies allowed and saw those pictures and now I feel really creeped out.

My whole problem with Somer Blink was the way they used internet spaceships and compulsions to manipulate people's weaknesses in ways that could damage their real lives and now I have that exact same problem with you. This is a computer game on the internet and like all things on the internet it attracts some mentally shaky people and that needs to be taken into account.

I don't want to say mean things to you, though, I just want to ask you politely to reflect on your behavior and consider the larger effects of your actions.


Are you saying he solicited images of his scam victims and has now posted them onto your forums?


Well somebody from goonswarm did eve mail some of those pictures to people on this forum.


That person should also revisit his or her choices, then, just as I requested of Erotica 1. Or is this some kind of really dumb tu quoque attempt? Because if it is, it is a particularly dumb one, even for you.


I think he may be pointing out the blatant fake concern/outrage for political mileage.


I doubt his outrage is any less real than mine. For an individual so obviously incapable of separating the game from real life as Erotica 1 is, as evidenced by collecting and then publishing pictures as he did, to be even considered for the CSM is evidence that there are major issues in this game. Those issues, however, are not of the game but rather of certain individuals that play the game. It's morally indefensible to do as he did, as well as it being a violation of the EULA/TOS. Will he demand a ban for himself in order to maintain the integrity of the sandbox?
Prince Kobol
#305 - 2013-11-13 13:32:38 UTC
I am full of outrage.. can't you see me being outraged.

grrr I am outraged grrr

erm.. grrr really outraged

grrrrrr grrrrrr

erm

grrr?
Prince Kobol
#306 - 2013-11-13 13:35:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Either way its a shame Erotica 1 is not running, I will happily admit that over the last week or so the Erotica 1 threads have been fun, a light relief from the usual Eve is dying threads , grrr goon threads, nerf (insert x) threads etc..

Oh well, hopefully someone else will come along and provide so other light relief Big smile
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#307 - 2013-11-13 13:45:13 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:


Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.


I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there.

Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well.

Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults?

If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person.


Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#308 - 2013-11-13 13:51:41 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:


Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.


I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there.

Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well.

Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults?

If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person.


Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.



Whoa there Dobbin.

You are a Goon... How can you be a nice person IRL?? Don't you read these forums?!
ALL Goons are basement dwelling psychos according to the AMAZING intellects that thrive on EvE-O.

Big smile

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#309 - 2013-11-13 13:58:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
I'm looking at my Grrr Goons manifesto and it says nothing about nice people

Arrowsection 4.1
throwing kittens
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Arrowsection 7.0

conquer the world


Arrowsection 7894.3

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accepting people who are not psychos..


ah there found it.

Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Insidious.
#310 - 2013-11-13 14:04:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
I cannot believe Erotica is recreating Noel's House Party in her chat room. How creepy. I am outraged to my core.
Prince Kobol
#311 - 2013-11-13 14:06:25 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:


Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.


I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there.

Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well.

Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults?

If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person.


Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.



Whoa there Dobbin.

You are a Goon... How can you be a nice person IRL?? Don't you read these forums?!
ALL Goons are basement dwelling psychos according to the AMAZING intellects that thrive on EvE-O.

Big smile



Well I wouldn't go that far but who am I to argue.
Prince Kobol
#312 - 2013-11-13 14:07:13 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:


Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.


I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there.

Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well.

Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults?

If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person.


Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.


That is good news and your welcome Big smile
Prince Kobol
#313 - 2013-11-13 14:09:27 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
I cannot believe Erotica is recreating Noel's House Party in her chat room. How creepy. I am outraged to my core.



IF that was true I would truely be outraged...

Also I had chips with mine Big smile
LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#314 - 2013-11-13 14:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: LiKuei
Erotica 1 wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves. Shocked


I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose.


Oh, and obviously...


X


Why put another person, who has a cult like following in the CSM position, to FURTHER distance the player base and CCP away from balance. If there was a Scammer Chair / Null-sec Chair / Low-sec Chair / ect ... well then maybe, since you are good at getting people to mess up their SP progression in the "Bonus Room".
Prince Kobol
#315 - 2013-11-13 14:26:02 UTC
LiKuei wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves. Shocked


I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose.


Oh, and obviously...


X


Why put another person, who has a cult like following in the CSM position, to FURTHER distance the player base and CCP away from balance. If there was a Scammer Chair / Null-sec Chair / Low-sec Chair / ect ... well then maybe, since you are good at getting people to mess up their SP progression in the "Bonus Room".


Somebody else who cant differentiation between a character in a computer game and the person behind the keyboard.

I am not talking about Erotica 1 specifically here.

When it came to CSM 6 I voted for the TheMittani, not because of the Character he plays, but because as a person who has and is leading the largest alliance / coalition in Eve he knew full well what the major problems were and at the time the CSM needed somebody who was not scared to say what was wrong and tell CCP when they were being dumb.

You have to separate the character from the person.

LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#316 - 2013-11-13 14:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: LiKuei
Prince Kobol wrote:
LiKuei wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves. Shocked


I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose.


Oh, and obviously...


X


Why put another person, who has a cult like following in the CSM position, to FURTHER distance the player base and CCP away from balance. If there was a Scammer Chair / Null-sec Chair / Low-sec Chair / ect ... well then maybe, since you are good at getting people to mess up their SP progression in the "Bonus Room".


Somebody else who cant differentiation between a character in a computer game and the person behind the keyboard.

I am not talking about Erotica 1 specifically here.

When it came to CSM 6 I voted for the TheMittani, not because of the Character he plays, but because as a person who has and is leading the largest alliance / coalition in Eve he knew full well what the major problems were and at the time the CSM needed somebody who was not scared to say what was wrong and tell CCP when they were being dumb.

You have to separate the character from the person.




And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Prince Kobol
#317 - 2013-11-13 14:55:22 UTC
LiKuei wrote:


And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.


Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here.

First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we?

In game character - Erotica 1
Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard.

See, its easy.

Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something?

Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here?
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#318 - 2013-11-13 15:00:37 UTC
An old guristas warrior said once in a random anomaly that what happens in the room, stays in the room. My respect towards the goons just raised.
LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#319 - 2013-11-13 15:26:42 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
LiKuei wrote:


And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.


Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here.

First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we?

In game character - Erotica 1
Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard.

See, its easy.

Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something?

Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here?




Who said anything about you and the Goons? Were you banned for questionable comments? Are there rumors about your source of income? Want me to continue? These things don't have to be true mind you, but it s perception.

You have to remember, most sheep live by the Cult of Personality Ruleset. And as such, most people should play up to their public strengths, yours being Scammer. There is no shame in that game play and I am amazed daily that people will do the things they do in-game to get acceptance. But as I have already said, if there was a chair that represents that facet of the game, you would be a top contender for the "Scammers Chair". That's not a personal attack, it is your in-game strength, which most people are going to know you as. You cant deny this, you just posted about the Code in another forum right before I returned to this one.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#320 - 2013-11-13 15:37:43 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Somebody else who cant differentiation between a character in a computer game and the person behind the keyboard.

oh the irony in this statement... the word "person" means nothing else but mask/character/role/...

.