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How would players react if you had to actually refuel your active ship
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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-11-13 01:30:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
You already do:

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=29668

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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#22 - 2013-11-13 05:04:29 UTC
I like it, but perhaps only on the far frontier. Maybe when they expand past Nullsec, to places there aren't jump gates yet. It could even tie in with the lore; the jump gates top you up while you jump through, but in places where there are no jump gates, you have to be careful where and when you jump. Limit the expansions until the proper industry follows. Set down deployable structures (not POSes) that harvest fuel from the surrounding space, or land mining colonies and have them produce it. Or just import it from elsewhere, if you're able to.

I would have liked it if fuel for every ship was implimented from the outset, but it wasn't, so it wouldn't make sense to just crowbar it in right now. There'd have to be a good reason.
Zuai
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-11-13 05:13:02 UTC
Minmatar ships are solar powered and wouldn't need any fuel :)
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-11-13 05:15:37 UTC
It would probably only need to be fueled every month or so.

So it would just be similar to insurance.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Laserak
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-11-13 05:19:24 UTC
I have to fuel my archon like twice a month
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2013-11-13 06:13:00 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
I like it, but perhaps only on the far frontier. Maybe when they expand past Nullsec, to places there aren't jump gates yet. It could even tie in with the lore; the jump gates top you up while you jump through, but in places where there are no jump gates, you have to be careful where and when you jump. Limit the expansions until the proper industry follows. Set down deployable structures (not POSes) that harvest fuel from the surrounding space, or land mining colonies and have them produce it. Or just import it from elsewhere, if you're able to.

I would have liked it if fuel for every ship was implimented from the outset, but it wasn't, so it wouldn't make sense to just crowbar it in right now. There'd have to be a good reason.

Null sec is wastely empty...no need to expand.

To topic: now that would be a great thing! Think of the possible implications when you plan a war...fuel-lines...logistics...ahhh

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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#27 - 2013-11-13 06:20:16 UTC
We should have to hire crews through contracts of some sort. [isk sink]

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Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#28 - 2013-11-13 06:38:07 UTC
Considering I already "refuel" my missile launchers every time I dock. I'm not sure it would add anything but some extra clicks before undocking.

And extra clicks without a clear purpose are bad, m'kay?
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#29 - 2013-11-13 06:49:19 UTC
like a car plug it in? hrm wouldnt work to well most players would hit auto fill then go watch the tv in their CQ
Regis Solo
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-11-13 09:37:12 UTC
If you run out of fuel would you need to leave your ship? What if your pod runs out of fuel, spacewalk?
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-11-13 11:24:45 UTC
Steven Alfrir wrote:
How would players react if ccp games added a game mechanism where you had to refuel your active ship after using it for a cetain amount of time depending on the size of the ship's fuel tank?

Fuel in our ships. hahahahaha! Next you're going to suggest we need bullets for our guns. Go play WOW, [expletive deleted].
Octoven
Stellar Production
#32 - 2013-11-13 11:38:11 UTC
NFain wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
What would this accomplish other than being a huge annoyance to everybody and a disincentive to using your ship at all?


I like the idea, longer distance you want to roam, you have to bring smaller ships. Screw alpha nado fleets.


You are thus assuming smaller ships have either A. Larger fuel bays or B. are more fuel efficient...im not sure how you get that a smaller ship would be better for long term deployment when in theory it should be able to hold less fuel (assuming the fuel consumption is universal of course).


As a comment to the OP, what....fueling POSes and capital ships in't enough for you? Perhaps you want to fuel your clone as well? Also, I know this is just bantered talk but any real suggestions should go in Features and Ideas forum :D
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#33 - 2013-11-13 11:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik
An utterly pointless addition that adds nothing to the gameplay. It looks like some players forget that this is, after all, a game, that was at least supposed to be fun.

I mean, what's next?
Health care for our clones where you can pick a package and decide if you want dental care or not?
Tax return papers simulation?
Unemployment bureaus?
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-11-13 11:56:34 UTC
OP is proof the oil cartel would find a way to f**k up space too. Arrow
Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-11-13 12:13:36 UTC
Walk in Stations.
Corp 5py
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-11-13 13:34:44 UTC
The ships are powered by a inexhaustible source of handwavium
Prince Kobol
#37 - 2013-11-13 13:38:15 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Poorly.
Tedium is never a good game mechanic.


Yet we are still suck with the current Sov Mechanics Cry
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#38 - 2013-11-13 13:57:32 UTC
Steven Alfrir wrote:
How would players react if ccp games added a game mechanism where you had to refuel your active ship after using it for a cetain amount of time depending on the size of the ship's fuel tank?


maybe the solar sails/panels on Minmatar ships would be functional...

Thank me later :D
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#39 - 2013-11-13 14:05:32 UTC
Octoven wrote:
NFain wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
What would this accomplish other than being a huge annoyance to everybody and a disincentive to using your ship at all?


I like the idea, longer distance you want to roam, you have to bring smaller ships. Screw alpha nado fleets.


You are thus assuming smaller ships have either A. Larger fuel bays or B. are more fuel efficient...im not sure how you get that a smaller ship would be better for long term deployment when in theory it should be able to hold less fuel (assuming the fuel consumption is universal of course).


As a comment to the OP, what....fueling POSes and capital ships in't enough for you? Perhaps you want to fuel your clone as well? Also, I know this is just bantered talk but any real suggestions should go in Features and Ideas forum :D


If RTGs were used [Pu238 or maybe a tokamak] the reduced mass of smaller ships would equal greater fuel efficiency than a larger ship using the same fuel. Also, there would be considerations taken into account for thrust and warp -- all related to mass and max velocity. Why would this be a big deal? You already use certain isotopes for jump drives... why not fuel warp drives in a similar fashion? The impact of this change on gaming would be tedious... just like PI, market PVP ... but if worked right I think it could be well done and have a dynamic and lasting effect on gameplay. What about warpcores with variable speed based on rates of fuel consumption? Admittedly Rubicon and Ascendence [sp?] implants have already covered that base... so stuff and yeah. What about giving every ship a jump drive, ditching stargates and actually being freee to move about.

I'm sure everyone is going to smash this shitpost asap ... but hey, ideas are ideas and some are better than others. Maybe I'll apply to CCP Atlanta :D

Thank me later :D
Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#40 - 2013-11-13 14:16:04 UTC
We have reactors on the ship. They last for several years, or until they're blown up.

Station docking fees would make more sense as a sink.

Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead.
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