EVE General Discussion

Ill go on record here and say that after 4 years in highsec and the hundreds, probably thousands of people I have interacted with, I don't recall a single one saying they are a highsec alt of a 0.0 char. A few were low sec inclined players who also chilled in high but the staggering majority were highsec players. I guess your mileage may vary but you may need to look outside your group of peers when determining "who" highsec players are.

Edited: original post made on my phone, fixed a couple spelling/missing word things.

Are 0.0 players supposed to wear some kind of "0.0 alt" badge in hisec?

why would they reveal it ? it's like a mark of shame

I do think about that a lot, I just had no real basis to say everyone that I haven't talked to is a nullsec alt. What I do have a basis to say is that the vast majority of people I've spoken to and interacted with in the game are, from what I could see, highsec players. That's the only real info I have from my limited perspective in the game.

Edit: I'm not really fighting or contending anything here. If you want my honest opinion of highsec, it's that I hate how fragmented and broken up it's population is despite being so massive. I hate how there seem to be hundreds, or thousands of 5-10 man corps piddling around while nullsec blocks number in the thousands of characters and actually achieve something. It bothers me how some who likely do have highsec alts call for nerfs, and if these nerfs came they would simply (I think) abandon their highec alts after reaping the benefits of it for so many years to go back to null. Where does that leave actual highsec players? Just kind of screwed.

I'm not a fan of the proliferation of alts in EVE, I feel like the game would benefit tremendously from more interaction. I laugh everytime someone bashes an alt mining fleet stating they need to interact with others in the sandbox, and then one thread over talk about their cyno alt being manditory as if, deep down, it's truly any different. You want things to be easier for you, so you rely on yourself instead of others. I think that's the main problem with EVE and its greatest flaw.

My vision of highsec, the way I would like it, would be actual large corps that matter. Corps that would bother with a war, that were large enough to field a defense, and have something worth defending. Corps large enough that, if they suddenly realized they could, could make a legitimate push into null without just having to rent, or whatever most do (I'm ignorant of this process and fully admit it).

That's it, in a nutshell. I wish corporations in highsec mattered. Right now, they really don't.

As opposed to nullsec - a sea of pseudobotting characters performing acts of tedium red cross shooting in an infinite loop,
interrupted only by indignant shrieking should the terrifying bogeymen of player not marked blue enter the system?

as an npc alt who has never set foot outside of hisec, let me tell you what nullseccers do

And you would totally love that they lost their usefulness and you had to substitute their function with your nullsec main... right?

Also, maybe you always log in every character you have?

notice how i said "alt"

don't you feel silly now

His argument was that posting blatantly ignorant fables that can only have been created by those who have no experience of the matter from a character that obviously has no experience on the matter doesn't bode well for the overall trustworthiness of your statements.

If you want to make claims that go counter to the known reality of the situation, it helps if you at least provide some reason not to dismiss it as complete nonsense out of hand.

Everyone's a high sec player. Just some people have null sec alts. Isn't that what you're actually saying?

So since 99% of players are high-sec players, do we really want to mess around with it? I can imagine a world where null-sec is the place to be, but it really isn't for the casual player or the new player who can't really survive the rats yet.