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Thaddeus Eggeras

Urkrathos Corp

Likes received: 216

#1 - 2013-11-12 16:43:20 UTC

Just looking to see fit ideas for after Rubicons.

Golem -

High -
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Bastion Mode I
- Tractor Beam II
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium -
- Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
- Shield Boost Amplifier II
- Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation
- Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Low -
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Damage Control

Rig -
- Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Drone -
- Warrior x5
- Hammerhead x5

Thoughts?

I fit this on SiSi, it seems to work pretty good. I plan to use it for L4s, so it should be more then enough for them. If you have to ask why the Meta 4s instead of T2s, then you shouldn't even comment. Everything fits, with a bit a room left over. With the NOSs off you get around 4m 30s. Does good DPS, great tank. Locks out to 118km plus so no need for a prop module. Web is mainly there to help the drones out, was thinking of putting an extender or another TP, but thought it's always nice to have a web haha.
Only question I had, is while in bastion Ewar isn't suppose to effect you, do neuts still effect you though?

Moonlit Raid

Doomheim

Likes received: 328

#2 - 2013-11-12 16:55:41 UTC

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

Why the hell have you fitted a meta 4 if you can fit a tech 2?

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#3 - 2013-11-12 16:56:44 UTC I wish I could delete your pst, haha

Kosetzu

The Black Crow Bandits

Northern Coalition.

Likes received: 164

#4 - 2013-11-12 19:31:33 UTC

You have a 10km web... on a Bastion fit cruise Golem? Even to help out the drones I'd rather go with a target painter, especially with the Golem bonus. The NOS is also rather debatable, very low drain on them in general, and when you sit still only frigates and angels will move into range of them.

You don't need fancy shield boosters when using Bastion, just use a T2. As for rigs, fit two missile rigs. Fourth BCS is better than the damage control as you have rather low damage with cruise missiles and few ways to boost it. Also... Do use faction BCS, that is worth it for all mission ships. Mid slots should be more than enough for the tank. With all running without the nos on there you have over 450 omnitank, 1200 burst which is a lot more than you really need even.

No propulsion mod will leave you slowboating for hours as you won't be moving at all in Bastion. You need prop mod for a lot of missions because there are gates so you won't be able to just warp in-shoot, hand in mission. Neuts still affect you in Bastion, just like it does for Triage and Siege on capitals. Nothing really stops neuts from efffecting any ship in the game, except breaking their lock and that's wasted time in missions.

Kirkwood Ross

Golden Profession

Likes received: 147

#5 - 2013-11-12 20:14:42 UTC

Lose the web, Damage control, shield boost amp, 1 invul, and the em rig.

Downgrade the faction booster for a T2. The bastion module is stupid powerful and can let you have a 1-2 slot tank easy.

Exchange the web for a target painter or After Burner.
Exchange the boost amp for a MJD.
Exchange 1 invul for a sensor booster.
Exchange the DCU for BCU and make all BCUs caldari navy.
Remove the EM rig and put on a missile related rig.

Federal Navy Academy 2,629
Batelle Federal Navy Academy Likes received: 2,629	#6 - 2013-11-12 20:24:51 UTC sure it'll work, but that's awful. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.

Thaddeus Eggeras

Urkrathos Corp

Likes received: 216

#7 - 2013-11-12 20:48:43 UTC

Golem -

High -
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Bastion Mode I
- Tractor Beam II
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium -
- Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
- Shield Boost Amplifier II
- Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- EM Ward Amplifier II
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation

Low -
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II

Rig -
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II|
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Drone -
- Warrior x5
- Hammerhead x5

I think that's good. I don't see a reason for 3 TPs and 2 rigors, that should handle any L4 easy

Aww yeahhh 102
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh Likes received: 102	#8 - 2013-11-12 21:57:51 UTC It could use some techII target painters.

Ministry of War Amarr Empire 715
Lady Naween Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 715	#9 - 2013-11-12 22:47:53 UTC Marcus Walkuris wrote: It could use some techII target painters. cept you know.. meta4 is better...


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#10 - 2013-11-12 22:48:09 UTC \| Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras Lady Naween thank you. The Meta 4 and T2 TP are the same in everyway BUT the Meta 4 uses less CPU. Once again check your Meta 4s and compre them to the T2s, sometimes Meta 4s are better than T2s.


Moonlit Raid Doomheim Likes received: 328	#11 - 2013-11-12 22:51:32 UTC Thaddeus Eggeras wrote: I wish I could delete your pst, haha It's all about the reverse psychology, but props for not taking the troll bait. If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough. Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.

IIshira

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,332

#12 - 2013-11-12 23:50:20 UTC

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

The rigors help you do more damage to smaller targets. With the new 5 second target painter cycle time two would work but three would be easier to manage. You're way over tanked anyways.

Replace three of your BCS with CN. You're flying a bill + ISK ship so don't go cheap on modules that give you more DPS.


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#13 - 2013-11-13 01:06:37 UTC Naaah I'm good with cheap, it will still get the job done, and I just sold 8 CN BCSs, and 4 Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System. I'd rather have the money for PvP ships in 0.0. I only PvE when I JC to high and am stuck up there, or to help others. I have been a bit more, but thats so I can get the SoE BPs

Thaddeus Eggeras

Urkrathos Corp

Likes received: 216

#14 - 2013-11-13 01:57:16 UTC

Golem -

High -
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Bastion Mode I
- Tractor Beam II
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium -
- Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
- Shield Boost Amplifier II
- Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- EM Ward Amplifier II
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation

Low -
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II

Rig -
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Drone -
- Warrior x5
- Hammerhead x5

I think that is good

Sigma Sagittarii Inc. 163
Pookoko Sigma Sagittarii Inc. Likes received: 163	#15 - 2013-11-13 02:42:01 UTC 1 is large shield booster really necessary? I haven't tried it on SiSi yet but from EFT numbers I seem to get more than enough tank numbers using pithum c-type medium shield booster with Bastion.


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#16 - 2013-11-13 02:46:22 UTC hmmm I'll check on SiSi, it might be enough in Bastion, anyone know?

FaDoyToy 3,263
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263	#17 - 2013-11-13 03:29:31 UTC I've run my golem with a pithum c-type medium booster, boost amp, and 2 invlun IIs, for years without bastion. with bastion I can probably drop the boost amp and one invuln and run 5 target painters or something. @ChainsawPlankto on twitter

The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 1,292
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars Likes received: 1,292	#18 - 2013-11-13 06:32:40 UTC Torp fit it, MJD into the fight instead of out, refit the web, 3 slot tank max. Just my opinion. Whats the point of CM if your tractors only go 48km? internet spaceships are serious business sir. and don't forget it

Thaddeus Eggeras

Urkrathos Corp

Likes received: 216

#19 - 2013-11-13 15:34:47 UTC

Golem -

High -
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Cruise Missile Launcher II - Scourge Fury Cruise Missile, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
- Bastion Mode I
- Tractor Beam II
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
- Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium -
- Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster or Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
- Shield Boost Amplifier II
- Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- EM Ward Amplifier II
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation or Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation
- Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation

Low -
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II
- Ballistic Control System II

Rig -
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
- Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Drone -
- Warrior x5
- Hammerhead x5

Tradors'R'us IChooseYou Alliance 22
sparklybooboo Tradors'R'us IChooseYou Alliance Likes received: 22	#20 - 2013-11-13 15:47:27 UTC 2 We have many great L4 agents around the Kinakka area, don't forget to bring that beauty down near us so we can help you rat.