Player Features and Ideas Discussion

From the way you've been very vocally defending it everywhere, one might even get the impression it was in fact primarily your idea, or that you were at least it's greatest advocate behind the scenes.

And in that light and the following promise made at the start of this year which I'm sure you'll recognise;



If I'm correct in that you have been one of the vocal behind the scene supporters of this change if not in fact its engineer.
I'm listening, present me with a reasoned logical, structured argument as to why this is both a good idea, for both fleets and small gang/solo (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about your qualifications to speak to that aspect of the game) and why it should be implemented on short notice.

Meanwhile pilots of non-tanky frigs will be raging about insta-dying versus these things. As others have said, these changes are going to **** off both sides of many fights.

It wasn't my idea. When CCP Rise posted it, I immediately thought Ooohhhh that's a good idea!

Of course I am operating under the unfair advantage of (1) Seeing what the alternative changes were and (2) Having the mathematical skills to appreciate that, under the conditions that Rise & co wish to promote, this tradeoff is more of a buff than a nerf.

Lastly, I'll repeat to you an explaination that I gave to another poster who seemed to think that they were entitled to have the CSM support whatever they wanted:



Disclaimer: I am however greatly reasssurred in my support of this idea by being on the same side of it as some players whom I hugely respect, such as eg: Prometheus Exenthal.

Snippy comments about me losing voters because I don't agree with your views will have even less effect on me than they will on Mynnna, since first I refused to alter a single one of my views to get votes in the first place and second I have no intention of running for CSM again. Not to mention that I'm the sort of person who reacts to being pressured by doubling down.

So thanks for motivating my to do my duty and follow my conscience with even greater fervour than before.

EVE thanks you for this support.

There goes a guy who quits a game because of a change that he hasn't even tried out to see if he maybe likes it after all.

What precisely are the situations in which this is a buff? I dont think cruiser vs lone frigate was really a situation that was in any need of buffing for the cruisers.

1. Interceptors dont get killed by 1 clip unless they are bad enough to orbit in precision missile range or stupid enough to fit 0 tank. To be fair, this describes many interceptors.

2. Yes, barely (depending on the af, ie enyo vs veng). So you can kill a single AF, but just about anything more, even 1 af and a t1 frigate will kill you. This is assuming you lucked out with the right ammo choice to begin with.

Interesting.

Electing people to be CSMs has nothing to do with benefitting the player base, and instead everything to do with giving them individual pull with CCP behind the scenes.

So a caracal fit specifically to kill frigates, can kill one frigate, assuming he lucks out with ammo selection, and the AF is not particularly tanky, and the af isnt linked and is totally alone, and this seems well balanced?

Note that the AF fits were not specifically designed to kill cruisers.

Analysis did not include drone damage, and with the exception of 1 case where an enyo lived in like 10% hull, I doubt it would make a difference. Caracal has only 2 drones, and afs can kill drones quite easily.

This is messed up. CCP Rise PLEASE consider the small gang/solo players!
If we don't have powerful RLMLs how are we going to effectively evade blobs with the new warp speed changes!?

If you are going to do this, please buff something else so we can deal with frigates effectively before we get hard tackled and blobbed.
Come on Kil2 don't let us down! You are an awesome guy and I have strong hope that you won't!

I'm fine with you not agreeing with me. We wouldn't have a debate otherwise. I'm also fine with you not representing by poll.
I might be utterly wrong, lord knows I opposed Proms AF changes and I did a 180 on that and have no qualms admitting it, he was right, I was wrong.

I would like to point out that you promised to post your defences and views right here where we could respond to them. I've mostly (an early on post in this thread excluded )seen you defend these changes anywhere but here (TMC and Failheap come to mind readily), so if my 'snippy' comment makes you double down on that promise that will actually be much appreciated.

And despite there being people with quite adequate math skills in this thread, so far nobody on either the CSM or within CCP has taken the time to walk us properly through the thought process and properly address concerns raised (other then admitting damage type switching might indeed be an issue) or telling us our concerns are 'chaotic' and 'unstructured' hence we're a little frustrated with apparently not being taken seriously (whether you personally respect me or anybody else in this thread has no bearing for the record on if the points we raise are valid or not).