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What is driving recent increase in Plex value

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#101 - 2013-11-01 12:21:50 UTC
Dirk Decibel wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Yeah that would be the halloween plex sale.

You call that a ******* sale? Here in Euro country it's 16 euro a plex, if you buy a sixpack. That's close to like $20 or something a PLEX?



CCP is calling it a sale. If it doesn't come out to be much of a sale for euros, well, bummer?

Theo Sotken wrote:
Somers new offer of 1Billion isk bonus. Will it increase or decrease the price of plexes?

More isk in the system = a rise in the price of plexes.
More Gtc's = more plexes being created (lower price).


They're offering a 1 billion credit bonus and the nature of Somer means that not all of that credit makes it into the game as isk.

I also kinda suspect that the sort of person who compulsively buys plex from them to get the credit probably also doesn't buy plex with isk.

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2013-11-01 12:48:21 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Dirk Decibel wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Yeah that would be the halloween plex sale.

You call that a ******* sale? Here in Euro country it's 16 euro a plex, if you buy a sixpack. That's close to like $20 or something a PLEX?



CCP is calling it a sale. If it doesn't come out to be much of a sale for euros, well, bummer?



*looks for a way to blame it on the Goons* Blink
Vis Aldent
Quafe Art
#103 - 2013-11-02 19:21:02 UTC
#84 Posted: 2013.10.24 14:36
1 Buy Order at 625,100,842.32 ISK Jita IV 4 Navy Plant

down to
580,000,000.00 x 1 in Kador [-] 0.5 Finid X
5 Buy Order at 573,005,000.00 ISK in The Forge [-] 0.9 Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant (Station)

= 45,100,842.32 difference from 625.1m to 580m.
Which difference is equal to - 525,392.32 ISK less than 9% of 573,005,000 ISK (51,570,450 ISK).

9% of 573,005,000.00 ISK = 51,570,450 ISK.
625.1m - 573,005,000.00 ISK = 52,095,842.32 ISK.

52,095,842.32 ISK - 51,570,450 ISK = 525,392.32 ISK.
52.1m ISK - 51.6m ISK = 0.53m ISK.


In 9 days from Oct.24 '13 to Nov.2 '13:
From 625.1m ISK Hi to 573.01m Lo.
A difference of 52.1m ISK, 9.1% down.

(Down to zero in 10.99 periods of 9 days = 98.9 days, 3 months and 8.9 days.)
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2013-11-03 16:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Dirk Decibel wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Dirk Decibel wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Yeah that would be the halloween plex sale.

You call that a ******* sale? Here in Euro country it's 16 euro a plex, if you buy a sixpack. That's close to like $20 or something a PLEX?



CCP is calling it a sale. If it doesn't come out to be much of a sale for euros, well, bummer?



*looks for a way to blame it on the Goons* Blink



git was a follower not a leader. as i remember. brilliant but no confrontational. a small tiny tiny goon asked..........rest is history.
Mobius Amatin
Maricel Inc
#105 - 2013-11-04 03:05:34 UTC
Interesting topic. I bought some plex from Amazon recently when it was $12.50 each. Wondering what impact Rubicon will have on the price of Plex. Thoughts?
Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
#106 - 2013-11-04 12:06:32 UTC
some historic about Plex :
CCP introduce introduced them to fight against the RTM and their Bot (isk Seller) old Ssytem will be managed by external partner
system : provide time game for some people and provide fast isk for Roxxor ( people who wants to win as fast as possible with Some is the ways(means) to commit even if it means cheating ..)
Thus those this are a captive population of their addiction and their many alt account

CCP some year ago decide to introduce in market Plex Like
As any other objects in a market managed in 90 % by the players. Why should CCP punish the players who decide to speculate by respecting rules of the game?
To throw in items sleeping on accounts inactive would not it be a big sprain(infringement) in their guard's role of the equity of the game there?
For my part I have never used the system of plex (or speculate on this item) because against economic ambition which carries the game... Which interest, challenge to inflate its wallet by plex for one players, it is for me only the confession of a failure in front of that this Blink and Roxxor attitude are the worst thing in a game

Well maybe that CCP did not anticipate the development of the market over 10 years, in particular the constitution by players of asset , wallet allowing the operations of mass on the market and on this however particular object that is the pled
For my part I think of a market managed in 100 % by the players is a utopia, it was necessary to put this object in the market?
Can CCP regulate the prices by occurring(speaking) directly without upsetting equities of the current(in class) operation at the risk of being inconsistent with his politics(policy) of the 100 % players?
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#107 - 2013-11-04 13:54:16 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
People spending RL money (and, therefore, their time) on other games, which, until there is some solid idea of what the winter expansion will offer, is a trend that is not likely to reverse.

CCP needs to release some incredible content "Soon" (TM) to get people's attention, and their sub money.




Sub money != People buying PLEX

In fact, people most active in game are also most likely to already have a stockpile of said PLEX, or simply be paying their subs so as to profit on the price swings in PLEX.

PLEX prices are not now, nor have ever been indicative of overall numbers of active player accounts. At this point I'd be most inclined to say PLEX price fluctuations follow a self-deterministic patterns based on ISK spending trends, which are in turn based on expansion schedules and avaliability of time to actively earn ISK during holiday periods.
Dex Thunakar
Evil Genius Organisation
#108 - 2013-11-04 15:18:52 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Dirk Decibel wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Yeah that would be the halloween plex sale.

You call that a ******* sale? Here in Euro country it's 16 euro a plex, if you buy a sixpack. That's close to like $20 or something a PLEX?



CCP is calling it a sale. If it doesn't come out to be much of a sale for euros, well, bummer?


Not much of a sale? It's actually still more expensive than just buying GTCs from external sites lol... so weird. Quite the opposite of a sale imo :p
Wawarp Dridrive ActActive
Doomheim
#109 - 2013-11-11 15:55:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Wawarp Dridrive ActActive
LMAO? "confiscated PLEXes" are just pixels. Your arguments make no sense.

By the way I find it amusing how OP is excited about the 15m isk rise. Dude, not much time ago PLEX used to cost around 300m isk and it was like that for years. NOW this is a price rise, concretely a +100% one.
Vis Aldent
Quafe Art
#110 - 2013-11-11 18:43:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vis Aldent
30 Day Pilot's License Extension (PLEX)
Buy Orders
The Forge , Jita IV - 4 - Nav , 600m + ISK , Qty 191 PLEX Units

(Up to 602,064,648.01 x 3 maximum rate.)

5 of which expire 2013 -11-12 (relative time), tomorrow.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#111 - 2013-11-12 19:57:56 UTC
I am not a market trader in anyway, but it probably just the usual demand increase that is increasing prices. Until the last patch and introduction of dual character training I have never before bought a plex. But since, I sadly have 2 accounts dual character training. I suspect there are many like me.
After rubicon you will be able to train all three toons on 1 account, so I suspect the price may go up more.

... What next ??
Vis Aldent
Quafe Art
#112 - 2013-12-12 06:21:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Vis Aldent
30 Day Pilot's License Extension (PLEX)
Buy Orders
Amarr VIII (Oris) - Emperor Family Academy (Station) 608m + ISK , Qty 26 PLEX Units
+ 8 units in Oursulaert (II - Astral Mining Inc. Mining Outpost)

Price - - - - - 608,000,110.99 ISK [ -0.43% below Regional average ]
Quantity - - -1
Sales Tax - 4,560,000.83 ISK (0.75%)
Total - - - - - 603,440,110.16 ISK

x2 +
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#113 - 2014-01-02 16:23:23 UTC
30 Day Pilot's License Extension (PLEX)
Buy Orders
Price
650,000,000 ISK, Location 0.0 Stain - FV-SE8, Remaining 1, Range: 3 Jumps, Updated 24 hours ago
600,000,000 ISK, Location 0.0 Branch - 9F-7PZ, Remaining 1, Range: Region, Updated < 30 minutes ago
600,000,000 ISK, Location 0.0 Branch - 9F-7PZ, Remaining 1, Range: Region, Updated < 30 minutes ago
597,500,116 ISK, Location 0.9 The Forge - Jita, Remaining 1, Range: Station, Updated < 10 minutes ago

Sellers
Price
599,000,001 ISK, Location 0.1 Placid - Barleguet, Remaining 2, Updated 1 hour ago
599,000,001 ISK, Location 0.5 Placid - Brellystier, Remaining 2, Updated 1 hour ago
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#114 - 2014-01-14 18:52:02 UTC
616m ISK x 69 in Jita 4-4 (buy
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#115 - 2014-01-28 17:53:30 UTC
0.9 Heimatar - Rens 1 Remaining 641,999,002ISK < 5 minutes ago (x5)
641m Jita 4-4 x3
2 more @ 639m in Rens
3 @ 636m in Domain - Amarr
13 @ 636m in Jita 4-4, most in Station(s), 2 in Region, 1 in Solarsystem
1 @ 636m in Domain - Amarr
0.9 The Forge - Jita 2 Remaining 635,517,100ISK 40 Jumps < 5 minutes ago
+ More at 635m, 634m, 633m
X ATM092
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#116 - 2014-01-28 17:59:28 UTC
I don't think you're using buy orders and sell orders to mean the same things the rest of us are.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#117 - 2014-01-28 18:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: GordonO
CCP should really start paying attention to this... When I started plex was round 350mil.. its almost double now but the payout for missions etc hasn't gone up... no idea how lvl4 mission runners manage to plex their accounts.. if at all,, and its going to get more difficult even for the nul bears.. and the plex sale that is ow on.. round 4% off.. not really a sale is it..

... What next ??
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#118 - 2014-01-28 18:09:51 UTC
X ATM092 wrote:
I don't think you're using buy orders and sell orders to mean the same things the rest of us are.

Buy and Sell values are related to the supply and demand and therefore to one another.

The price is nice and high and increased in value enough for me to buy some.

I don't normally tend to use buy orders and sell orders to mean anything.
I just try to keep track of them accurately to derive and draw accurate conclusions from them.


I don't try to differ either.

What do you suggest I differ from if any?

Maybe we can verify ...


Nonetheless, exact accurate recording is an important factor in the recent increase in Plex value.

It is easier to deduce what those factors are once you have pertinent output data related to the input.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#119 - 2014-01-29 06:21:43 UTC
GordonO wrote:
CCP should really start paying attention to this... When I started plex was round 350mil.. its almost double now but the payout for missions etc hasn't gone up... no idea how lvl4 mission runners manage to plex their accounts.. if at all,, and its going to get more difficult even for the nul bears.. and the plex sale that is ow on.. round 4% off.. not really a sale is it..


L4 mission runners manage to plex their accounts by blitzing missions, by doing them in marauders, by using MTUs.

With plex at 700m that would equate to just over 23m/day.

However, what magically happens is, people go "hey, $15 got me 500m a while back, now it gets me 700, maybe I should get some" and people sitting on piles of plex go "Hey, I bought these at 450, now they are 700, time to cash out". [700m is used as a reference price, ymmv]

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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#120 - 2014-01-30 16:14:26 UTC
Back down to 623m in Jita 4-4 station x62 units.
1 in Hek region.
That is 18 million less than the last check.
Approximately 13m less from the top most numerous Buy offers.
A 2% drop over 2 days, not 2 weeks.


I will do Mission Running, and most likely will be able to reach L4 missions after completing enough L3.
I am not sure if I will be able to do them solo.

I am not sure if I can do L3 solo yet as I have never tried.
I am working on covering the necessary conditions to have that operating successfully.
That way, I could not only solo L3 missions, but also rat in null sec, mine there, and get into FW.

Here is a link to a MTU which I didn't know what you were talking about.

Looting with the Mobile Tractor Unit on Singularity