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Forming BU Ganking

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-11-09 23:06:10 UTC


BU is an organization that does many flavours of evil deed, but the thing that is much less common than you might think among us is the good old fashioned suicide gank. We have a couple really solid suicide gankers, but it’s not something the average belligerent is into. So after I had to pass on a very expensive Mach gank because of lack of shooters, pillar of the community Perseus Parker mulled it around and hit on a solution.



I’d like to present you fine people of the internet with the mail that is about to stand up our suicide gank wing, headed by Perseus Parker, organized under the channel 'BU Ganking’. The intent is to have Tornado pilot available to hit expensive targets, plus the odd bit of ganks for fun in between.



“Hey guys,



Had a play around with some maths regarding dual character training and found something v. interesting. If you think it’s worthwhile, could be fun to encourage it as a BU training investment for future ganks seeing as we had limited availability getting nado’s last time.



The maths all checks out on this as far as I’m aware, but double check to make sure:



Steps:



1) open new character (minmatar) on an already existing account and activate dual character training for 1 plex (~600mil investment)

2) immediately train cybernetics to III (no point in remapping for this, it’s 13.5 hours for standard attribute layout.

3) plug in basic +3 perception and willpower implants and remap to perception/willpower immediately

4) Train the following:



Min Frig III

Min Dessie III

Min Cruiser III

Min Battlecruiser I

Gunnery V

Medium Projectile III

Large Projectile I

Motion Prediciton III

Surgical Strike IV

Weapon Upgrades IV

Trajectory Analysis II

Long Range Targeting I

Power Grid Management IV

Large Projectile IV



The following alpha calculations are all assuming no implants on the following fit: Basic Nado 30d train

No further training: 9606 RF EMP (under 15d total training)

Training Surgical Strike V: 9864 RF EMP (just under 30d total training)

Training Large Projectile V: 10007 RF EMP (maybe just over 30d total training)

Traing both to V: 10275 RF EMP (would take two dual training plexes and you’d be better off investing in a new account for it)



Training Surgical Strike V will definitely fall within the 30 day training time frame, whereas Large Projectile V may require pausing training on a main to finish it off (2 day max lost training on main).





I’m proposing that these can be trained as an alt on every account and we can start ripping up some incursion bears who seem to think they’re invincible.



They’re not ideal in terms of tracking/lock speed etc, but can be finished up with a few days of training sacrifice on a main character.



Let me know your thoughts, and if you’ve got any questions give me a shout. Also made the channel ‘BU Ganking’ if we want to organise this **** in the future. Can make it private if we want?



Toodles,



Perseus”




So if you want in on this you can use the above plan for a 30d gank tornado or you can use an already skilled main. Hop into the channel ‘BU Ganking’ and maybe drop a mail or a convo to Perseus Parker telling him that you’re in. Other gank ships are also totally usable, but the standard here is a Tornado.



For a reminder about some of the things that we will be able to murder, check out a post I made about this a while back:



http://belligerentundesirables.com/2013/04/29/some-math-regarding-suicide-ganking/



Also, as a side note, as it stands right now, using sec status tags you can keep a workable sec status for the low cost of 13m isk per gank.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-11-10 19:52:35 UTC
Why would you activate dual training on an existing account when you could get 51 days of free game time on a throwaway alt account and simultaneously gain 30 days on your main account for the same price: one PLEX.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2013-11-10 22:00:00 UTC
I will definitely be in, assuming there is activity during my playtime (early AU TZ, weekdays 1-5 hours before daily downtime, more random on weekends). Should not take me long to train Sabriz and my second account character into tornadoes.

I also already have the Talos at just under max skills (Large Blaster Spec 3, all other gunnery throughput skills maxed and all application skills at 4 or 5), as well as the Thorax, Catalyst and other gank ships at good skills.

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-11-11 07:23:30 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Why would you activate dual training on an existing account when you could get 51 days of free game time on a throwaway alt account and simultaneously gain 30 days on your main account for the same price: one PLEX.


Because after that you don't have to spend another PLEX every month to keep in subbed.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#5 - 2013-11-11 15:05:14 UTC
Confirming. I'm in. Main can fit a T1 'nado, got an alt training up as well.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-11-12 07:06:13 UTC
We'll be in Monk.

Feel free to drop me a line or stick a toon in our pub channel.

Regards,

Sith

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant

Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#7 - 2013-11-12 07:34:27 UTC
I have a toon trained for it, I'd be in assuming we'll be splitting the loot fairly.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-11-12 08:36:35 UTC
Of course. I wouldn't do it any other way with my friends and peers.
Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#9 - 2013-11-12 09:13:44 UTC
Excellent, I will join the channel when i get home from work. I will spread the word to those whom i feel would be interested.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#10 - 2013-11-12 16:41:09 UTC
Nyan, 'got a few gank toons, nyan, including some 'nado love, ~nyan nyan~

The Space Kitty.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

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Eranicus II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-12 17:26:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Eranicus II
OMFG, last night I was looking for this post.

There was a freighter with nice stuff in it, just sitting 14 k from the du annes gate for 3 hours and after asking all over for the gank channel I get to find it today X

Will join tonight after work, its time for me to profit from ganks Lol

Pods are great buuut no isk only grief. Cool
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-11-12 18:44:41 UTC
This sounds interesting. I'll look into this once rubicon hits for the easy t2 large arties.

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Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#13 - 2013-11-12 21:22:00 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
We'll be in Monk.

Sith



Whoa whoa whoa, let's not rush ahead here, I think we're obliged to buy him a drink first.

What a difference a comma makes...

P.S. Sorry Sith

P. P. S. I'll be in my Monk.


"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#14 - 2013-11-13 00:10:12 UTC
This is sick, you're sick. I can't believe CCP allows you psychopaths to get away with this, instead of banning you. This game is quickly becoming Detroit after midnight. I hope you're proud of ruining the only good space MMO, you scumbags.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-11-13 00:12:16 UTC
There are several good single player and consensual-pvp-only space games if you'd like. I'm told the X series and STO are both things that some subsets of people like.
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#16 - 2013-11-13 00:17:57 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
This is sick, you're sick. I can't believe CCP allows you psychopaths to get away with this, instead of banning you. This game is quickly becoming Detroit after midnight. I hope you're proud of ruining the only good space MMO, you scumbags.



NO! NOT MY INTERNET SPACE PIXELS! You maniacs! You blew it all up!!

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-11-13 00:20:02 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
There are several good single player and consensual-pvp-only space games if you'd like. I'm told the X series and STO are both things that some subsets of people like.

Sto is a little dumbed down, but if she prefers her pilots in space games not abusing the invincibility clones provide, the x series seems like an excellent suggestion.

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EXPLOZONE
Noise Tanks
#18 - 2013-11-13 00:46:11 UTC
Excuse me, I live in Detroit and it isn't anywhere near as dangerous as you make it sound...





Ah who am I kidding, it's a wasteland, the perfect place for the Belligerent <3
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-11-13 00:54:06 UTC
EXPLOZONE wrote:
Excuse me, I live in Detroit and it isn't anywhere near as dangerous as you make it sound...



Ah who am I kidding, it's a wasteland, the perfect place for the Belligerent <3


Can we please call you Mr Whiskers.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#20 - 2013-11-13 00:55:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
This is sick, you're sick. I can't believe CCP allows you psychopaths to get away with this, instead of banning you. This game is quickly becoming Detroit after midnight. I hope you're proud of ruining the only good space MMO, you scumbags.



I love comments like this from someone in a corp called "Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company".

Assassinating kittens, skinning them and turning them into gloves - OK
Inflicting a minor defeat on someone in a competitive game - OMG EVIL STOP IT CALL 911



Edit: Sorry, it appears I have seen so many serious posts like yours that I did not recognise yours as sarcasm.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

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