Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I know your right int he way you describe it. as that is how the game works. i still think its bollox and the wreck should belong the to guy that turn the npc ship into the wreck. and salvageing someone else's wreck should have risk for its reward.

its one of the same bollox machanics this game has like FW i have a zero sp alt sitting in fw just running sites. made 1.5bil isk worth of lp on her in hardly any time, that sould be removed from game.

anything that gives you isk lp items or anything in this game should have some element of risk the more you make the bigger the risk and so on.

Why should he be rewarded more than he already is without any additional work? What has he done to deserve that kind of reward boost?

Why should there be any additional risk to extracting a universally available resource?
You are never salvaging “someone else's wreck”, so for whom should this supposed risk increase? Everyone?

Again, salvaging is its own profession. When you salvage, you compete against other salvagers — there's where the risk and reward is. It has nothing to do with unrelated and irrelevant professions. Just because you can engage in that profession alongside some other thing you're doing at the same time doesn't mean you're entitled to any additional rewards for the salvaging profession. In fact, you already have the immense advantage of being there first so why on earth do you need more?

…and I'm simply asking you why the rewards for unrelated professions should be increased.

If it's for no good reason, then that rather explains why it never has, never should, and never will happen. It also means that there are no real objections to completing the salvaging profession with a toolset it should have had at its disposal from the very beginning — viz. actually finding the resources the entire profession is centred on. Until then, it's a bit like having mining barges in the game, but no proper way for them to discover where the asteroids are.

Wrecks should just be scannable with combat scanners..... Problem solvered.

Tippia, while I agree with you that there needs to be more salvage opportunities, I don't like the idea of someone being able to scan down a combat site, enter it, salvage the wrecks and leave without any risk involved. But I also don't like the fact that the only way wrecks become abandoned is by the owner actively doing so. I think the best route is to maintain the current timer length, but reduce by half the ownership timer. A wreck is "yours" for 1 hour, and is then abandoned, at which time it and the loot within it become free to take. Tougher missions can produce a number of wrecks, which take time to salvage, so allowing someone to scan down those wrecks in the interim between my making them and my salvaging them benefits the passive player, while my being able to salvage them depends on me actively producing them.

Well, good news: they can't. They risk being shot at, the same as everyone else entering that site. As with all competition over resources, they also risk being too late.

But that has nothing to do with salvage. Abandoning wreck is tied into the reward structure for shooting stuff — specifically the part that says that if you killed it, you are allowed to loot it. Abandoning the wreck means you give up that reward.

Salvage was never part of those rewards so there is nothing for you to give up.

No, it benefits the active player who goes out there and finds the resources he's after. The passive player can only get whatever he accidentally comes across at gates or static sites. For you who feeds your salvaging by also running missions, it makes no difference but then again, why should it? You're already given a head start on those wrecks so if you give up your edge against your competition, then that's your choice and your problem — not something they should be burdened with.

No. You were making claims about intent, agreement, and argument, all of which were completely false.

I'm in favor of this, but they should require separate probes and only fit in expanded launchers? That would keep them pretty nerfed to their specified application, that is for salvaging abandoned sites where the mission or anomaly has despawned.




The difference is, you're disagreeing with CCP's stance ever since salvaging was introduced.

"us, ninja salvagers"

Ok i lold


As if that is some profession in eve or anything worth to do..

Who the hell ninja salvages if not for possible bait??

Then they should remove an ability to warp to wreck or bookmark it unless it is scanned down. Just to be fair.


New players that CBA to mine but cannot do anything else yet. Salvaging is more profitable than mining.