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Why are all ships right-side up??

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#21 - 2013-11-12 11:33:28 UTC
Because this is a game not reality.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-11-12 12:11:45 UTC
Samoth Egnoled wrote:
I swear someone from CCP said that it was 'Eve physics' and they aren't the same laws that govern our universe.

A.K.A Because shut up! Thats why!



Uh, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that... a wizard did it.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#23 - 2013-11-12 12:44:14 UTC
Barkaial Starfinder wrote:
You need less thrusters on the ship if you design it in a way that it will fly mostly in a plane.

Also, the ship interior has artificial gravity and crew (together with inertia dampeners to keep crew alive), so the ships kinda need something to be considered "up".

Btw, EVE ships have top speed limits because of the functionality of the inertia dampeners.. If there were no limits on top speeds the crew would die in every turn, and your ship would take damage on any contact. And I made all this up.


"up" is relative to what you're standing on in your ship - presumably the "floor" [or ceiling]. but since toroidal fields are omnidirectional ... it all comes back to which way your ship is oriented and stuff.. or something.
Lilliana Stelles
#24 - 2013-11-12 13:10:32 UTC
Lore-wise, warp drives are physics breaking. They cause a natural resistance to movement; they like to stay in place. Once turned on, they can never be turned off without the ship exploding.

The way they anchor themselves in space is what causes resistance, and keeps you from going infinitely fast.
It's apparently also what keeps you from falling into planets without orbiting at ludicrous speeds.

I like to assume that up is the same for all ships because they're all manufactured with their warp drives facing the same direction.

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#25 - 2013-11-12 13:23:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
We needs more Vertical ships, Myrmidon, and Naglfar need more like em Big smile

make the revenant vertical, like a nighthawk

sansha: the vertical faction


Nighthawk vertical? I thought they were turning it into a Drake hull? Or are they changing that completely now?

And in reply to the OP, coding. You try having a spaceship game as large as Eve with no coded "up". It would be hard to do...

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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#26 - 2013-11-12 14:58:51 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:

Nighthawk vertical?
Yeah, it was supposed to be Nightmare.

Who put the goat in there?

Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-11-12 15:04:13 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So orientation isn't a nauseating experience?


This. If I was flying around and ships were oriented all different ways, it'd probably make me nauseous.

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-11-12 15:06:25 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Please define up in space, where there is no gravity and thus no clear definition of down too.

For all we know up = down...


No need, just look at your ship after you arrive somewhere. it will soon show you what's up.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#29 - 2013-11-12 15:20:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Shederov Blood wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:

Nighthawk vertical?
Yeah, it was supposed to be Nightmare.


Aaaah! My bad, probably should have realised tbh haha makes alot more sense now though Big smile

J'Poll wrote:
Please define up in space, where there is no gravity and thus no clear definition of down too.

For all we know up = down...


Up is relative to the person in question... So your statement here is slightly off... And by slightly I mean waaaay off Big smile

EDIT: Dang someone beat me to it haha

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#30 - 2013-11-12 15:23:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Double post.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

Zuai
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-11-12 16:29:14 UTC
Because you wouldn't want to have your ship the wrong side up
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-11-12 16:35:43 UTC
2 space faring civilizations meet in space. 1 from the top half of the galaxy with their ships oriented on the x galactic plane. The other from the bottom of the galaxy oriented 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the top galaxy ships. Who would be right when they said they others ship is upside down.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#33 - 2013-11-12 16:39:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Erotica 1 wrote:
Can you imagine if we had to account for yaw and stuff flying these things around, and disabled the autopilot feature? Some people wouldn't be able to handle it and unsub.

And by "some people" I am mainly referring to everyone D400 blows up.

The old MMO Jumpgate was like that. Joysticking around in 0-grav was actually really fun. You'd rotate your ship and it would just keep going ahead sideways, on the same vector. You had to apply thrusters to change course, and turn around backwards and apply thrusters to brake. If you hung around a station very long, you'd see somebody crash into it and asplode in a failed docking attempt. Too bad that game died, and the sequel ended as vaporware too.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#34 - 2013-11-12 16:39:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Alavaria Fera wrote:
The ships are just balls in space really, it doesn't matter much if they are upside down or tilted.

Or warping backwards like the elite t3 pilots of the past used to do


I actually miss the days of watching a freighter come out of warp sideways, power slide into a gate and then bounce out 40km like it was made of India rubber.

Mr Epeen Cool
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#35 - 2013-11-12 16:58:14 UTC
Because EVE is not a simulator. things are gimball locked due to engine design.

If you want a real space simulator, play Orbiter or Kerbal Space Program.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#36 - 2013-11-12 17:03:32 UTC
I always liked Allegiance. You had side thrusters and rotation thrusters and you would need to rotate your ship prior to engagement to make sure you were going to turn the correct way, because some race's ships could go up and down quick and others could turn right or left quickly. Of course, that was all first person. A lot like what most people want EVE to be, except contained into hour-long games instead of persistent.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#37 - 2013-11-12 17:36:24 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
2 space faring civilizations meet in space. 1 from the top half of the galaxy with their ships oriented on the x galactic plane. The other from the bottom of the galaxy oriented 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the top galaxy ships. Who would be right when they said they others ship is upside down.


The galactic core.
Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
#38 - 2013-11-12 17:40:05 UTC
Because Magnets

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Taal Khurin
Acorn Harvesting
#39 - 2013-11-12 17:44:16 UTC
I do love vertical ships and unusual designs (hence my love of minmatar) i also would like more of them.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-11-12 17:57:09 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
The enemy's gate is down.

My first thought after reading the op was "someone saw ender's game recently".

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