Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Rigging should, I think, be a set of certificates dedicated to exclusively to rigging, then assign Rigging (n-1) as part of the relevent Ship Master n.

As a whole, I like this system. I've already used it to set up a skill plan for the coming month. It saddens me slightly that I won't have gold icons across the board, but I'll settle for being a master of the shuttle. As horrified as I was to learn that I wasn't nearly as competent in flying the wide variety of ships that I thought I was, it's nice to have a system to passive-aggressively tell me that I've been slacking on my supportive weapon skills. I mean that sincerely.

I will suggest that a ship's mastery level should be hard capped by the ship's main command skill: I should not be considered a master of the Cormorant without level 5 in Caldari Destroyers.

Also, a minor annoyance: Where it lists the factions in the top left of the ISIS interface, the Guristas are on the same level as the four main races and ORE. It should be on the second line with all the other pirate factions.

Finally, I've noticed in the ISIS interface that the line leading to rookie ships basically comes from nothing.

You should consider having the pod be there instead.

I want to be a master of the pod.

Rough thoughts on useful manufacturing certificates. Still want to do one for T3 construction and another for capital ship construction.

Ships don't have just one certification, why should the industrialist be stuck with a single useless cert?

Certificates

Manufacturing - Basic Technology (possibly add levels of Science? What about manufacturing skills for stuff like faction drones)
Level 1
Industry 3
Production Efficiency 3
Mass Production 3

Level 2
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 4
Mass Production 3
Supply Chain Management 1

Level 3
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 5
Mass Production 5
Advanced Mass Production 1
Supply Chain Management 3
Mechanics 3

Level 4
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 5
Mass Production 5
Advanced Mass Production 3
Supply Chain Management 4
Mechanics 3
Jury Rigging 3
{all rigging skills 1}

Level 5
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 5
Mass Production 5
Advanced Mass Production 5
Supply Chain Management 5
Mechanics 3
Jury Rigging 3
{all rigging skills 1}


Manufacturing - Advanced Technology
Level 1
Industry 5
Mechanics 5
science 5
CPU Management 5
Power Grid Managment 5
Production Efficiency 3
Mass Production 3
{all T2-related data core skills, except ships, at 1}

Level 2
Industry 5
Mechanics 5
science 5
CPU Management 5
Power Grid Managment 5
Production Efficiency 4
Mass Production 3
Supply Chain Management 1
{all T2-related data core skills, except ships, at 2}
{ship data cores at 1}
Frigate Construction 1

Level 3
Industry 5
Mechanics 5
science 5
CPU Management 5
Power Grid Managment 5
Production Efficiency 5
Mass Production 5
Advanced Mass Production 3
Supply Chain Management 4
{all T2-related data core skills, except ships, at 3}
{ship data cores at 2}
Frigate Construction 3
Cruiser Construction 1
Industrial Construction 1

Level 4
Industry 5
Mechanics 5
science 5
CPU Management 5
Power Grid Managment 5
Production Efficiency 5
Mass Production 5
Advanced Mass Production 4
Supply Chain Management 4
{all T2-related data core skills, except ships, at 4}
{ship data cores at 3}
Frigate Construction 5
Cruiser Construction 3
Industrial Construction 3
Battleship Construction 1

Level 5
Industry 5
Mechanics 5
science 5
CPU Management 5
Power Grid Managment 5
Production Efficiency 5
Mass Production 5
Advanced Mass Production 5
Supply Chain Management 5
{all T2-related data core skills at 5}
Frigate Construction 5
Cruiser Construction 5
Industrial Construction 3
Battleship Construction 4


Thoughts?

Semi-fact, check the dev blog that was posted end Sept. Title is something about Certificates iirc, the gun skill tree changes are described in there.

The core turrets will require the lower level turret skill at 3 (So Large Hybrid 1 requires Medium Hybrid 3) but Medium X Specialization has been removed from Large X Specializations prereqs. Other gunnery skills have not been removed, only the smaller size guns.

Ship masteries are pretty odd at the capital level.

One of my characters shows as having Mastery V for an Anshar, yet it doesn't have Jump Freighters V.

This character fails the requirements for mastery of an Erebus because it lacks Tactical Weapon Reconfiguration V and Magnetometric Sensor Compensation Level V. Neither of these skills affect Titans at all.

Split Resource Harvesting into related topics:

- Ore Mining: Include xxx Processing Skill IV due to usage of T2 crystals. Required for Mining Frigates, Mining Barges, Exhumers
(feel free to split it further apart, e.g. high, med, low ores)

- Mercoxit Mining: separate due to Mercoxit being the only ore requiring Deep Core Mining, also include Mercoxit Processing IV. Required for Mining Frigates, Mining Barges, Exhumers

- Ice Harvesting. Required for Mining Barges and Exhumers

- Gas Cloud Harvesting. Required for Mining Frigates only.

Same for Refining
- Ore Refining (split similar to Ore Mining)
- Mercoxit Refining
- Ice Refining

Good proposal.

Also make sure the skill astronautic engineering at least isnt included in any certs (preferrably it should be removed from the game entirely)

Good to hear!

Also, what about industry as a whole being "quite clumsy"?
I have been waiting for some sort of overhaul since several expansions now. Sure, industry is not as sexy as new spacecrafts, but surely the guys who make all the explosions possible deserve SOME love as well!
And I am not talking about new player-manufactured items, but about the production process itself.

Please cut the clickfest some day. I wont go into details here, but the Science & Industry interface is really crappy and makes you do a lot of unnecessary clicks.

Trajectory Analysis is still required at high levels for certs involving energy turrets when better falloff is nearly pointless for those turret types.

please fix this.