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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#241 - 2013-11-11 23:33:45 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#242 - 2013-11-11 23:44:09 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


Now let's say that adrenaline rushes made you suicidal, would you voluntarily engage in EVE's heart-pumping PvP?



Let's say that you were a haemophiliac; would you complain that full contact sports were too bruising?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#243 - 2013-11-11 23:45:26 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops



Face facts: we're both failures Sad

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#244 - 2013-11-11 23:47:28 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops



Face facts: we're both failures Sad


How dare you both not measure up to the megalomaniacal accusations of random people on GD!

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#245 - 2013-11-12 00:25:47 UTC
Assuming CCP goes all the way with its current plans, it will be devoid of me.

NO!

you cannot haz my stuff !

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#246 - 2013-11-12 00:26:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#247 - 2013-11-12 00:42:03 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops


Troll away, troll away.
Nice thing that you can say whatever you like on the forums, with zero repercussions.

Too bad no one can check the veracity of your claims of whatever anyone says on the forums.
Have to split now..Scarlett Johansson just called.. Seems she had a tiff with boyfriend and wants some revenge sex.

See how that works?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#248 - 2013-11-12 00:45:22 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops


Troll away, troll away.
Nice thing that you can say whatever you like on the forums, with zero repercussions.

Too bad no one can check the veracity of your claims of whatever anyone says on the forums.
Have to split now..Scarlett Johansson just called.. Seems she had a tiff with boyfriend and wants some revenge sex.

See how that works?


So... because they cannot specifically disprove your unfounded accusations precisely because they are unfounded, this is grounds to accuse them of further deception?

This kinda seems like the lead in to one of those "In Soviet Russia..." jokes.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#249 - 2013-11-12 00:45:24 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Have to split now..Scarlett Johansson just called.. Seems she had a tiff with boyfriend and wants some revenge sex.



Tell her I am sorry and I promise to do better if she comes back now. Shocked
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#250 - 2013-11-12 00:45:59 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops


Troll away, troll away.
Nice thing that you can say whatever you like on the forums, with zero repercussions.

Too bad no one can check the veracity of your claims of whatever anyone says on the forums.
Have to split now..Scarlett Johansson just called.. Seems she had a tiff with boyfriend and wants some revenge sex.

See how that works?


That's an interesting argument, but you've got the burden of proof backwards. You're the one making the extraordinary claim (Malcanis is a devious criminal mastermind hellbent on the destruction of everything you love/ScarJo wants to touch your wrinkly balls) in both cases, ergo you're the one who has to provide evidence to support said claim.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#251 - 2013-11-12 00:49:39 UTC
Something about teacups and mars.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#252 - 2013-11-12 01:03:08 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Something about teacups and mars.


Russell's teapot?

Woo! CSM XI!

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Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#253 - 2013-11-12 01:13:09 UTC
Dinsdale's RMT.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#254 - 2013-11-12 01:18:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale rarely fails to make me feel ashamed and guilty that I will never be even 1% of the devious, dedicated, endlessly resourceful plotter that he has such unshakable faith that I am.

I love EVE, but I will never love it even remotely enough to justify his regard.


If I RMTed like he suggests I wouldn't have had to spend a thousand dollars on a car, because I'd be able to afford much better.


Oops


Troll away, troll away.
Nice thing that you can say whatever you like on the forums, with zero repercussions.

Too bad no one can check the veracity of your claims of whatever anyone says on the forums.
Have to split now..Scarlett Johansson just called.. Seems she had a tiff with boyfriend and wants some revenge sex.

See how that works?


wait, did you of all people just tell someone to back up their claims

like you have with all of your RMT conspiracy theory bullshit

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#255 - 2013-11-12 01:31:01 UTC
Bittersweet Badasaz wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
Bittersweet Badasaz wrote:
mynnna wrote:
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a highseccer's face - forever.


Well there you go CCP! In these tough times where Dust is crumbling and your online numbers have stayed stagnant since Goons rose to power, why not listen to Mynnna and give your new subscribers that special boot in the face? Over and Over. Forever.

Surely that will help, preferably crushing the skulls of those hoping to join the game, especially if they resist joining Goonswarm and helping to pay Mitten's real life bills. I mean what else do they have to do with their spare time really?

Congratulations CCP on already starting down that visionary path with the live event leading the lambs to the slaughter. Conversion to low and null sec shot way, way up right? Oh oops wrong, new trial accounts from steam got enraged and started talking about leaving and telling their friends this game is designed by the totally unimaginably incompetent. Imagine them feeling humiliated instead of grateful for a two hour deathmarch, the nerve not to like that boot to the head over and over, and you know, just leave instead.

Picture your next corporate pitch to investors "we have limited our new player base to those that like to be kicked in the head over and over, in other words, the brain damaged"


Holy ****. The butthurt, its so strong its almost alive. Man thats beautiful.


I work on games in real life and I'd describe it as more a bit disgusted and then "oh yeah this is predictably how MMO's die" than anything else. Yes I've made money at it and work on games with more than 10mil subscribers. So more like shaking my head a bit and going back to coding . Have played this one for over a year, mostly in a WH with a few other buddies on a real life developer team, this is an alt. The developer on our team who led us to Eve was in Sniggwaffe and a decent PvPer. Me I don't have that much time.

Didn't make it to the death march, hisec isn't were I spend most my time but what is happening here is what is what happens to every successful MMO before they walk off on their own death march off a cliff by alienating new subscribers and those who don't want to play exactly like the veteran powerblocks.

a) First the veteran powerblocks become outsized in their influence on the Game Developers designers. (check)

b) Then the veteran powerblocks demand the game get easier and easier for them (see jump bridges, cost of wardeccing etc) (check)

c) At the same time veteran powerblocks disparage the newbies, solo players, pve people and small groups," i.e. those who are not large powerblocks" and get rules inn acted which effectively choke off the new player pipeline by encouraging the designers to keep designing the game around veterans. Why do the game designers always fall for this? Well because it's pointed out that that large social groups are stickier and thus what the game designers inevitably conclude is that they need to do is force everyone into that large scale playstyle. Wrong. New players and those with alternative playstyles simply see a place that is hostile to them, where they are openly disparaged, and the gap between themselves and attaining leadership in a large power block is too large to overcome so they turn to other games.

e) Then Game participation levels off and then dies, MMO closes shop.

d) I'd love to see this MMO do the opposite - stack the rules to forcibly loosen up the large veteran power structures which then allows a refreshment of newer players in who have a chance of realistically attaining positions of influence. This MMO unfortunately is doing the opposite and hastening it's own death. Marching several thousand alternatives and newbies to their deaths the other day was strikingly symbolic.


So, please explain why EVE is still here when most of the games you've probably worked on have died?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#256 - 2013-11-12 01:35:09 UTC
"I've worked on all of these games with 10m+ subscribers"

~none of these games ever existed~

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#257 - 2013-11-12 01:36:22 UTC
~muh playstyle~

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#258 - 2013-11-12 01:47:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
"I've worked on all of these games with 10m+ subscribers"

~none of these games ever existed~

Well when you put it that way

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#259 - 2013-11-12 01:56:39 UTC
Andski wrote:


wait, did you of all people just tell someone to back up their claims

like you have with all of your RMT conspiracy theory bullshit


Dinsdale Pirannha is a master of the Chewbacca Defense.
DSpite Culhach
#260 - 2013-11-12 06:35:27 UTC
This game confused me from day one with its subdivision of "zones". If I had to reshape it:

/rant-on

* Hisec "safety" should depend on exactly WHERE in Hisec you are. Are you now in:

* A high traffic, hisec lane? Say the trade route from Hek to Rens? It should be IMPOSSIBLE (as far as return on investment in ISK) to get ganked AND robbed, as CONCORD would stop the "looting", but also:
- Waiting times at gates to jump through, because, congestion.
- Having to pay Jump Gate tolls, especially on higher traffic hours, because, Jump Gates use fuel too. They do. Shutup.
- Extra waiting times if there has been a traffic accident (read suicide gank) as CONCORD is scanning everyone ... and running breathalyzer tests, and checking under seats for drugs, and hey, where's your mining permit? (small James 315 joke there)
... etc etc

* A very low traffic, hisec area? Say an anomaly that's 32 AU away from ANY of the systems moon, planets, starbases etc
- What CONCORD? You're on your own buddy. Here be Dragons. Well, Tech 2 Drakes anyway.
- Well, at least these anomaly might contain better loot, as it's "off the beaten path". You watching DScan, right?
- If you're attacked and ransomed, pirate just gets a flag. No sec losses unless he kills you, but he gets the usual flags. This might promote more players making "old fashion" catch-and-release pirates. Killing players still gets the usual flags AND Police coming after you, and if you attempt, within the timers, to dock at bases or use hisec-to-hisec gates, you will be stopped/webbed/scrammed, and ship confiscated - and not frigging Concord-okken (or however its spelled) - or a least some more "balanced" mechanic.
... etc etc

What is "Hi-Hisec" and what is "Low-Hisec" should be a dynamic, server calculated thing based on activity in an area or some other metric that CCP comes up with. Based on something like this, low sec became a moot point, and we can dream up some even stranger rules for "null", like, if you own sov, you control the gates. Oh you want to use enemy gates? You got hacking skills ... right? Isn't it now cool that Covert Cloaks don't turn off next to Gates? Hack away son.

ASAIC, It should be (almost) impossible to have "burn Jita" events, as after 15 minutes of that crap, the faction Police would just warp in an arseload of Rail Turrets and open fire on ANYONE who even attempts to get target locks, but at the same time, you could have miners in remote ice anomaly ELSEWHERE in the Jita system being asked to hand over 30 million isk to stop their Orca exploding.

I want my cake and I want to eat it too. Or at least the choc frosting. I like choc frosting.

/rant-off

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.