Ships & Modules

The arby imo is not anywhere near as good a ship.

It is a fair bit squishier, far less dps with less drone BW, smaller cap and very ugly.

It's only saving grace is that is has tracking disruptor bonuses which are situational at best.

Vexor, + More armor, better agility, more cap, higher sensor strength, bigger drone bay, more drone bandwidth, more PG, little bit faster. dmg bonus on guns.

Arbi + 1% better scan res and TD bonus. More cpu.

I think TD work so good so no bonus is needed, no problem fitting one on a vexor, i have one on my ishtar.

How come arbi is so bad?

It's not that, it's that the Vexor is so good

The Vexor is the highest DPS cruiser. Absolutely unbeatable as a Glass Cannon, it will melt battlecruisers in the right circumstances.

Even when tanked, it still punches above its weight class.

The Arbitrator was never meant to be a DPS giant, but to win with finesse, and terrorize turret-based BC's. I've fought Hurricanes to a standstill with one, solo (somehow, reinforcements always arrive...). It is extremely effective in small-gang and limited solo warfare, and, with the 5th low slot, can now mount a sturdy 1600mm roll, DC II, 2x EANM, and a DDA II, with trimarks. Very tough nut to crack.

That said, the Vexor will always be my favorite ship. I've run Lvl 4 missions in one, just to prove it could be done, ratted in 0.0, and PVP'd with varying degrees of success using it.

Arbitrator is good if you're going up against a gun boat for obvious reasons, but in all other instances the Vexor is better.

Shuuuuuuushh!!!!!

It's not polite to give false, misleading, or just plain bad advice! Your missile spewing piece of Caldari tinfoil shall never know the beauty and nobility of using tiny remote-controlled robots to systematically tear your enemies to bits while simultaneously blowing big holes in their hulls!

Actually, the new Caracal has turned out to be pretty damned good, especially as a frigate hunter, when equipped with RLML's. Not sure how true that's going to be in a couple of weeks, though. Have you seen the proposed changes?

Vexor is awesome. You don't have to fly the navy or T2 versions, though those are good too. I've won a 4v1 vs a caracal, 2 DPS frigs and a logi frig. I think I could have solo killed the thorax that came later, but the friends I called for showed up because I underestimated the old girl.

It really shines in an armor config at plex gates where you start at zero. A caracal can kite you, but just put ECM drones on him then tackle or flee.

In faction warfare, join a corp. but also - you don't have to fit everything t2. When you are learning, T1 stuff is fine.

Amar boats are strong right now too, if that is your thing.

Sadly I have, and am fighting the change with much gusto, along with the rest of the small gang community in that thread. However Rize might just derp, and place it in rubicon anyway.

Go for the vexor...the Arby is just fugly.

I like how half of this thread is talking about how the arbitrator is only good if there are gunships on the field, as if that was some kind of rare occurrence.