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An open letter to the community on the subject of transparency and accountability

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Bao Xi
Krypteia Operations
#41 - 2013-11-11 10:28:19 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.


Given that CCP is in fact a small company, and EVE has a relatively small player base, CCP has all the more reason to be responsive to its players. It's just good business.

Given their business is running the game that a great many of us are paying to play, I think that my point holds especially true.

Companies that fail to understand the needs of their clients don't survive.

I think that is the last thing any of us want to happen to CCP, since we all love this game, and genuinely want it to last another 10 years.

CCP has to amp up its game. This isn't just a PR issue anymore.

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Frying Doom
#42 - 2013-11-11 10:35:09 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
We have a CSM for a reason, you are better off getting them to ask your questions and demand your petty demands because if they can't do it what makes you think a complete random subscriber can get these answers?

The more you try to drag someone into the spotlight unwillingly the more they will despise you or your group/leaders.


Hey,

I have yet to be asked anything about this, I think what E1 wants is face time and his/her/its 15 minutes of fame. Maybe as a run up for the election, maybe just because otherwise CODE will softly silently vanish away (one can hope).

Obviously locking threads merely causes more to be opened although I do think there are consequences for people who don't get subtle hints like continuous locking.

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Good to see CSM members can comment on something.

Shame its not something important.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2013-11-11 10:47:23 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.


You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?


Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#44 - 2013-11-11 10:48:29 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.


You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?


Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES



There are many other threads you can read and hear my stories. Other websites too.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2013-11-11 10:51:04 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.


You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?


Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES



There are many other threads you can read and hear my stories. Other websites too.


No no, i want to hear about the PL leadership that you claim to have in your corp.

Otherwise you're an idiot and a liar

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#46 - 2013-11-11 10:52:49 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.


You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?


Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES



There are many other threads you can read and hear my stories. Other websites too.


No no, i want to hear about the PL leadership that you claim to have in your corp.

Otherwise you're an idiot and a liar


I apologized and corrected myself. Learn to read and get past your rage and tears.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Stranger Lafaye
Blightworks
#47 - 2013-11-11 10:53:20 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.


You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?


Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES


Wow, haven't heard you this upset since your alliance mates lost that Revenant they were all laughing about, simultaneously.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2013-11-11 10:55:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
Erotica 1 wrote:




I apologized and corrected myself. Learn to read and get past your rage and tears.


Your correction states you have PL leadership active in the New Order, still waiting on a who

Stranger Lafaye wrote:


Wow, haven't heard you this upset since your alliance mates lost that Revenant they were all laughing about, simultaneously.


Yes, clearly calling somebody a liar for lying is evidence of somebody being mad

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-11-11 10:56:32 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
There are many other threads you can read and hear my stories. Other websites too.


Stories... fairy tales... was the difference.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#50 - 2013-11-11 10:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:




I apologized and corrected myself. Learn to read and get past your rage and tears.


Your correction states you have PL leadership active in the New Order, still waiting on a who


Wouldn't it be a pretty massive violation of the new ToS to out a bunch of high profile individuals' alts like you are asking?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2013-11-11 10:59:42 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:




I apologized and corrected myself. Learn to read and get past your rage and tears.


Your correction states you have PL leadership active in the New Order, still waiting on a who


Wouldn't it be a pretty massive violation of the new ToS to out a bunch of high profile individuals' alts like you are asking?


Haha, no it sure would not be a violation of the ToS, you're allowed to narc on people in EVE, its ok

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Bao Xi
Krypteia Operations
#52 - 2013-11-11 11:02:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Bao Xi
Grath Telkin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:




I apologized and corrected myself. Learn to read and get past your rage and tears.


Your correction states you have PL leadership active in the New Order, still waiting on a who


Wouldn't it be a pretty massive violation of the new ToS to out a bunch of high profile individuals' alts like you are asking?


Haha, no it sure would not be a violation of the ToS, you're allowed to narc on people in EVE, its ok


You Sniggerdly guys, like Darius JOHNSON back in the day, really are interesting fellas.

Really. Some great personalities there.

Compliments aside, what makes you think it would serve our interests, or yours, by dropping names like that? Is that something you actually expect anybody to do? Maybe you should have just taken the hint. Do you want to be the guy that gets your friends in trouble when somebody actually does post proof, and it causes problems within your broader organization?

Given your rank on the larger **** pyramid that is EVE, I would expect that the trouble would probably land on you, given that **** rolls down hill. Even in space.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#53 - 2013-11-11 11:12:14 UTC
Bao Xi wrote:


*snip*

Given your rank on the **** pyramid, I would expect that the trouble would probably land on you, given that **** rolls down hill. Even in space.



Nope, in space it gets blown up by a bunch of BL dreads.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#54 - 2013-11-11 11:17:32 UTC
RIP sandbox 2013

Welcome WoW in space
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-11-11 11:18:41 UTC
Bao Xi wrote:
Compliments aside, what makes you think it would serve our interests, or yours, by dropping names like that?


You don't have any names to drop do you?

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#56 - 2013-11-11 11:27:04 UTC
dexington wrote:
Bao Xi wrote:
Compliments aside, what makes you think it would serve our interests, or yours, by dropping names like that?


You don't have any names to drop do you?


We don't use our friends to make forum points to please you. I shouldn't have said anything, it's leading to drivel.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-11-11 11:57:35 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
dexington wrote:
Bao Xi wrote:
Compliments aside, what makes you think it would serve our interests, or yours, by dropping names like that?


You don't have any names to drop do you?


We don't use our friends to make forum points to please you. I shouldn't have said anything, it's leading to drivel.


So you don't... i was going to vote for you in the csm election, but now that it is clear you are just a liar, i think my vote will go to a more trustworthy candidate.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-11-11 13:15:22 UTC
OP is a member of "CODE." thus any content of his post was ignored.

NO

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-11-11 14:43:38 UTC
Your campaign that you want to see an end to "scandals" is a farce. You spent the first 2 and a half hours asking people to read the tear filled mails, mining the guy's API for intel to pass to goon fleet, calling me an alt of Heavy Rayne and finally having Bao Xi mute me because I continued to ask for proof when none was given. The question and answer at the end was you fielding lobs from your friends and acquaintances, where the true question is why you would inflame the forums with such an obviously insignificant event as the "SP scandal." Later in the recordings you also state that you're hoping CCP will stop allowing in-game entities giving out bonuses for the purchase of GTCs when you must know that they have already done so. The only reason I can see for you to state something so patently false is that you're further hoping to incite rage from people in order get their votes, should giving them ISK fail. Now, if some how I missed the proof, I'll ask you again(for the Nth time now) to send it to me in game so that I can review it and potentially amend my opinion. I know, you're gonna argue I've prejudged the whole thing without hearing all of the facts, and so I'll again say that I have read the original forum post, the original miner bumping articles, I have studied the API and I have now listened twice to the recordings. If reviewing the evidence presented and coming to a different conclusion than you and your friends is prejudging and trolling, then you should really get on my side and stop prejudging and trolling these forums.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#60 - 2013-11-11 15:26:32 UTC
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Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.


Thread locked. A tip: f you would like to have a soapbox to offer up topics not allowable under the forum rules, I suggest starting a blog.

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