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Why does null-sec want to conquer high-sec?
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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2013-11-11 01:48:32 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Null is bored because nobody fights there any more. It's because it's too safe now. It's never been so safe in fact Oops

Nerf null!



Basically this. They got bored due to lack of adrenaline and wants to bring it to hisec. Its 100% legit on their way but CCP should make keeping nullsec areas under control much more challenging so they had to really work towards keeping it. They would less bored having to defend themselves constantly. Forcing PVP coaltions to fight for null and low sec or lose it.


So basically your edgy new trolling technique is to say a bunch of provably wrong things over and over again in the hope that people will... what? Think you're stupid? Okay, mission accomplished.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-11-11 01:49:08 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
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You want an explanation?
Okay... try this one on for size.....

People that lack a sense of entitlement tend to get VERY annoyed at CONSTANTLY hearing those who DO have a sense of entitlement, whine about freakin EVERYTHING THAT DOESN'T GO THEIR WAY.....
When dudes in nullsec have to constantly work to hold onto everything they have.... that's called "doing it for yourself".
When dudes hang out in protected areas, reaping the benefits of a strict set of rules... that's called "assisted living".

It doesn't take a Libertarian to figure this junk out.


JUST WOW it's like a lever was pulled and Rush Limbaugh vomited on the screen. I mean Rush when he wasn't living on welfare, by the way. What a mean and miserable outlook, with very little relevance to this spaceships video game.
Hisec is the newbie pond, nullsec is the free-for-all, WH is the PVE and PVP endgame, pretty much.
Some people just don't log on to perch on the edge of their seat attending to details on a screen . Hell, some people do that all day as a job. If someone wants to log on for a few laughs with friends or a bit of a casual spaceships fun, let em. Asploding others or mining or marketeering does not make you a bad/weak/evil/smelly person.

That's why these threads are stupid, there's SO MUCH ROOM OUT THERE. Giant swathes of sov null are jumpover ghost towns, but it's all owned and you can't have it. OK fine, so nearly everybody is stuck in Empire, mostly by choice. Deal with THAT and spare me the rugged individualism puke that is comedy post-Hobbesian babytalk in most educated settings.

Unless u was trollan, then gg 4/10



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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-11-11 02:26:03 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
That's why these threads are stupid, there's SO MUCH ROOM OUT THERE. Giant swathes of sov null are jumpover ghost towns, but it's all owned and you can't have it.


While true, most of that space is worthless. Space above -0.8 truesec is garbage; you can eke a living out of a -0.6 system but it's only marginally better than running hisec missions.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#64 - 2013-11-11 02:38:34 UTC
Andski wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
That's why these threads are stupid, there's SO MUCH ROOM OUT THERE. Giant swathes of sov null are jumpover ghost towns, but it's all owned and you can't have it.


While true, most of that space is worthless. Space above -0.8 truesec is garbage; you can eke a living out of a -0.6 system but it's only marginally better than running hisec missions.


This.

That space is empty because it's pointless to live there when you could just be spamming L4s all day with no risk.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-11-11 02:41:58 UTC
I can't see how it can be that worthless if you keep paying the bills to keep sov What?

Maybe it has other worth that isn't obvious to mission runner types?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#66 - 2013-11-11 02:44:28 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
I can't see how it can be that worthless if you keep paying the bills to keep sov What?

Maybe it has other worth that isn't obvious to mission runner types?


I've expounded upon this before.

I believe the only real reason to pay sov bills for about half the space the CFC owns is to throw the bird to everyone else.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-11-11 02:49:58 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
I can't see how it can be that worthless if you keep paying the bills to keep sov What?

Maybe it has other worth that isn't obvious to mission runner types?


Because leaving a bunch of your own systems without sov gives hostiles a great place to stage an invasion?

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#68 - 2013-11-11 02:56:32 UTC
Andski wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
I can't see how it can be that worthless if you keep paying the bills to keep sov What?

Maybe it has other worth that isn't obvious to mission runner types?


Because leaving a bunch of your own systems without sov gives hostiles a great place to stage an invasion?


So it's about being safer then, as you see it? I guess there are nice moons about too. Then of course, opportunities for rentals and such.

So well worth it then really!
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-11-11 03:01:24 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
I can no longer live this lie.

You are right, OP.

2 weeks ago there was a mandatory meeting for -ALL- Null sec pilots to attend.

There the GBNSC [the Global Directors of the Null Sec Cartels] informed us that the time to strike was upon us.
The years of mock battles and fake practise wars has trained us for this very moment.
Years we pretended that we were all fighting one another when in actuality, we were just preparing.
Burn Jita? The Hulkagedons? ...All just small experiments to locate cracks in the armour.

But now its time...

On the 12th of December, the blue donut will finally reveal itself and crush the High sec forces and their pathetic Concord overlords!


Prepare yourself, OP...Null sec is coming...

mmmm... donut.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-11-11 03:04:48 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Andski wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
I can't see how it can be that worthless if you keep paying the bills to keep sov What?

Maybe it has other worth that isn't obvious to mission runner types?


Because leaving a bunch of your own systems without sov gives hostiles a great place to stage an invasion?


So it's about being safer then, as you see it? I guess there are nice moons about too. Then of course, opportunities for rentals and such.

So well worth it then really!


What does that have to do with a system being populated or otherwise? If there's nothing that encourages players to live in a system, they won't.

The only effect sov has on moon mining is the fuel reduction.

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#71 - 2013-11-11 03:25:22 UTC
If you post more than once in this thread you need to find a play style in EvE you enjoy.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#72 - 2013-11-11 03:29:41 UTC
Andski wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Andski wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
I can't see how it can be that worthless if you keep paying the bills to keep sov What?

Maybe it has other worth that isn't obvious to mission runner types?


Because leaving a bunch of your own systems without sov gives hostiles a great place to stage an invasion?


So it's about being safer then, as you see it? I guess there are nice moons about too. Then of course, opportunities for rentals and such.

So well worth it then really!


What does that have to do with a system being populated or otherwise? If there's nothing that encourages players to live in a system, they won't.

The only effect sov has on moon mining is the fuel reduction.

So, you're saying that if the system is worthless, it's ok because renters can magic up isk from it somehow and not only be happy but also have enough to pay the landlord?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#73 - 2013-11-11 03:31:15 UTC
also, non-populated systems with moon mining?

is this the large nullbear tears thread

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-11-11 03:33:46 UTC
No one wants highsec, its filthy and full of horrible people. What people do want is highsec to stop being better than nullsec and a reason to have sov.

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2013-11-11 03:35:29 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
If you post more than once in this thread you need to find a play style in EvE you enjoy.


But... this is the play style I enjoy.
Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-11-11 03:40:59 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Citation needed for CCP destroying highsec. Rubicon is about players moving away from being controlled by the Empires.

Alternatively, it could be about GRRRR GEWNS and CCP are going to drop swarms of bees in rifters outside every undock and gate in highsec on 19th November.


This game. I would play it.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2013-11-11 03:42:03 UTC
I forgot to say this earlier.

~Nerf Highsec~

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2013-11-11 03:50:17 UTC
High sec just makes people so angry.

Angry I tell you. They smash things and burst into tears they are so angry at high sec.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2013-11-11 04:07:54 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
High sec just makes people so angry.

Angry I tell you. They smash things and burst into tears they are so angry at high sec.


See this is what I meant when I said highsec is full of horrible people.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-11-11 04:10:53 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
If you post more than once in this thread you need to find a play style in EvE you enjoy.


but but but muh playstyle

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