EVE General Discussion

No no, many people believe that the "structure" level we see on the HUD is the actual ship structure. That is not the case. What you see is the amount of structural damage that the ship can take before it becomes out of control and doomed.

However there is no point in discussing what should be, only what is. It has been estabilished in EVE's lore that ships require crews to function properly. I, for one, would definatly love to hear more about the whys and hows, but there is no point in denying it.


Like i said, if the technology for making frigate sized pod-ships have no crew is there, then its definatly possible for it to be applied to larger scale ships (The Eidolon, for instance, has no crew. Its a battleship). However since we know that the larger ships are, in fact, crewed, then we will have to asume that it IS cheaper and more efficient to use live crews then it is to use automated systems.

We could go around in circles for hours on this for sure, so I'll just concede the point. Regardless, the technology in EVE is definitely up to the task of making crewless ships possible.

I have a question... Why does this say it requires multiple capsuleer pilots for ships o_o I can understand if ships need crews but I dont understand that :|

it's my understanding that the NPC versions of the ships have crews.

They were designed to have crews.

They have crew quarters, etc.


HOWEVER, pod-pilot technology comes along, and ships are retrofitted so you can be neurally jacked into the ship and control everything yourself.

*points to all those windows on his ship*

Pretty sure that's and indication that there's a crew....

Honestly, what's wrong with having crew?

Would make the game much more fun to actually have to assemble a crew with talents in things like:

Gunnery
Navigation
Engineering

If anyone played the old browser game "Space Pirates" you understand what I'm getting at.

If not.

Basically, SP had crew you could hire that would affect your ship above it's base traits. You also had Morale and if it went to low...ya..they mutiny :P


Also, the whole "pod pilot" thing is really stupid. Look at the ships...you can CLEARLY make out sections that would be the "Bridge". Why have a bridge? It says in the Tutorial that our "outside view" is from chase camera drones...

Hopefully, with this WiS, they'll revamp some of the lore surrounding how we control these massive ships.

Ooooh, ya...I so want to be able to launch boarding parties and boot people out of their ships; provided they lose the Boarding Fight


BTW: The human brain is simply not capable; nor will it EVER be capable (unless its size grows) to control a ship the size of anything larger than a Frigate. And if you use the "Well we have super computers running all that other stuff". Then my response is:

WHY THE HELL ARE WE EVEN IN THE SHIPS

They are obviously, then, capable of running completely on their own with only us issuing orders for the A.I. to process.

The "i'm the only one on the ship" is one of the major cons this game has for me.


-anyways, that's my take on it.

are you sure those are windows?

drugs r bad mmmkay?

Those are not windows they are sensor panels but they double up as a 'view' prot to a video screen correlated on the inside.

All ships in eve are built for non capsullers just the more recent ones are built with the capabilities in the first place instead of retrofitted. Every capsuller in the eve universe is represented by the players exception to the few named NPC ones that you cant seem to kill pernamently and are tougher than normal rats.

Capsuleer technology basically removes deparment heads and chain of commands which on real ships is a massive portion of its crew. So the only crew you have left are 'grunts' and 'expert grunts.'

Though automation technologies the pod does bring this doubles back into non capsulleer ships as well and those ships arent crewless ception to the infested ones.

Also somone has got to man the nanite pumps and tell each and every single pump what exactly they're fixing instead of slapping in glass stucturing isntead of a power conduit. The nanites in eve are pertty stupid in comparison to some of the VIs/AIs

As for all those saying they want to command the ship though a bridge needs to sit down and rethink thier posture.

When you pod jack into a ship, you become the ship. Every bit of damage the ship receives registers as pain. Warp induces a euphoria, you can potentially get motion sick from breakneck manuvers and your semi sub concious thoughts are transmitted to the crew, afterall you are thier master after god.

Luckily your training from concord on the behalf of your empire sponsorship gets you used to the idea of being the ship.

One of the books was pertty bad in retconning i think it was the emperyan age one.

Still the thought of getting pod hacked is scary. o-o I guess another good reason to have crew, somone to take over the ship if the pod captain loses control.

To OP's question :

Because there will never be Brains without the Brawn's.