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Nice Job CCP. Now Can We All Get 17m Free Skillpoints Also?

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#421 - 2013-11-10 12:45:41 UTC
Altrue wrote:
No advantage was given to this player.

A free 17m SP respec is a huge advantage, especially when it's not a service available to other players.

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So next time you see a GM being kind, which is different from favoritism, just deal with it and return to your dull egoistic world :p

It is favouritism because CCP have undone our work to appease another player. Our actions came with consequences, there were repercussions which had an impact on the landscape of New Eden and CCP intervened, reverting the changes we had made to the sandbox. I'm concerned about CCP's decision to interfere in this matter as it has greater implications than just restoring someone's SP as a result of negligence.

For all you know, Erotica's bonus room could be an elaborate scheme to undermine the strength of enemy alliances by rendering their pilots incapable of flying their ships. This is a far-fetched idea, but the principle remains. CCP should not be interfering in player interactions unless they break the EULA.

Oh god.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#422 - 2013-11-10 13:18:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
Erotica 1 wrote:
Jake Warbird, could you kindly tell the community what you wished our latest contestant who lost around 50m skillpoints and 40b in assets in his attempt to show faith? I don't want to quote your response that I am reading right now in the latest API to protect your privacy.

Thanks!

PS This one is being screen shotted for the "before" pic of the api. Just sayin...

Go ahead and paste it. Not like I care vOv

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Charles Wu-Wong
Anti-Nub Incorporated
Centipede Caliphate.
#423 - 2013-11-10 15:34:51 UTC
This entire topic is disgusting. If he lost all those SP, he shouldn't get them back, since he agreed to lose them.

If his brother lost them for him, then his account should get banned for account sharing. It's as simple as that.
Reiisha
#424 - 2013-11-10 15:39:35 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Well, CCP gave him back some skillpoints. They didn't offered him more than what he should've had anyway.
is unproductive, nothing in the article says that this could happen in a true pvp situation.

So why are you complaining ? No advantage was given to this player. Actually I'm sure that one could argue that Erotika was impersonating something and thus violating the TOS, or anoter excuse of some sort.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure part of the people complaining here didn't mind posting about Ishukone Scorpions threads, whereas the issue is much more pronounced... and massive.

So next time you see a GM being kind, which is different from favoritism, just deal with it and return to your dull egoistic world :p

Side-note : You just believed an article on minerbumping.com without any proof (not even a photoshoped screenshot) to validate was what assumed as true : CCP gave his skillpoints back. For all you know this might just be a brilliant way from james to create hype around his website.

Big up James ♥


The problem here isn't kindness (which is obviously allright) or whatever, it's about setting a precedent. Following your analogy, this is pretty much the same as giving out the scorpions in the sense that CCP is simply giving out stuff without any real reason.

You are correct in that there is literally no proof - Neither this Heavy character nor CCP have said anything on this matter and the fabled API link or whatever hasn't actually been shown anywhere.

Still, this is an incredibly sensitive issue for CCP. Reimbursing SP needs to be done via a very specific set of rules, if at all. If true, the player here deliberately lost pod after pod because he was either a fool or an account sharer - Neither of which should be rewarded, though i can understand the sentiment of the GM in question as he may not want to appear callous, or to lose a subscriber, thinking that it may generate negative attention if he doesn't reimburse.

That said, Erotica's stuff is pretty stupid aswell. It's the equivalent of giving a ******** kid a baseball bat and telling him he'll get candy if he smashes his head in on it. I don't see how he in particular can claim the moral high ground in an issue he directly caused and i don't see why people are arguing for Erotica instead of arguing for the actual situation.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Kate stark
#425 - 2013-11-10 15:42:43 UTC
if this never happened then surely this thread would have been locked by now with a post saying so, because rumourmongering is against the rules of the forum.

hence we can conclude it's not a rumour as the thread remains unlocked, and is indeed something that happened.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#426 - 2013-11-10 15:44:07 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Jake Warbird, could you kindly tell the community what you wished our latest contestant who lost around 50m skillpoints and 40b in assets in his attempt to show faith? I don't want to quote your response that I am reading right now in the latest API to protect your privacy.

Thanks!

PS This one is being screen shotted for the "before" pic of the api. Just sayin...

Go ahead and paste it. Not like I care vOv

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#427 - 2013-11-10 16:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
OK, CCP, I think it's time...


You've been hinting at this for months now, so just do the dev-blog and get it over with. Here, I've got a title for you:


Coercion is Bad(tm)


Coercion has now been ruled as against the rules in EVE online. Over and over again, CCP tells us through their marketing about how you can have an impact on the game world through emergent player behaviour, meaningful consequences, and an 'always on' world. Yet, over and over again, the last months have shown that CCP has severe disdain for any sort of coercion, or misrepresentation in EVE.

Banning folks for editing an (open!! UNLOCKED!!!) 3rd-party(!!!!!!!!) wiki, using a retroactive ruling for a rule that their own GMs can't explain. Giving back assets, and in that case, even rewarding the player who was ripped off with additional deadspace/officer modules.

Outright banning the impersonation of others, despite the fact that (but it was always that way!) rules change leaves discretion to GMs to permaban for saying "I am definitely an alt of a _______ member".

Now, you reward a player - aside: having SP refunded so you can spend it however you like, is most definitely a reward - by refunding them for something they were coerced out of.



JUST COME OUT AND SAY IT ALREADY!!!



Coercion is now banned in EVEonline.

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Zazz Razzamatazz
Bad Touches
#428 - 2013-11-10 16:33:12 UTC
EvE Online: Be the Villain*








*Unless your villainy actually has some sort of effect- in which case the villainy will be reversed
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#429 - 2013-11-10 17:07:50 UTC
Well has the bar been raised to 50m SP now? Would make a great Christmas present for the player-base.

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Jim Era
#430 - 2013-11-10 17:09:17 UTC
Was he reimbursed all 50m sp? If so I am changing my petition to gain 50m not 17m

Wat™
Sidrat Flush
School of Applied Knowledge
#431 - 2013-11-10 17:12:29 UTC
There has always been a disconnect between the 'Original Vision' of eve and the rulings.

I haven't seen the api key so can't confirm nor deny the respec of 17M skill points through wilful pod destruction.

That is the crux of the matter, nothing to do with aspirations of an empire corporation, nor the kill board stats - but two people playing Eve in front of a crowd of on-listeners through a 3rd party application.

I thought CCP produced a booklet with the title - "Greed is Good".

No one, no where can scam an honest person, only the greedy need apply.

Thank you Erotica 1 and James 315 for making Eve, not just interesting, but Real.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#432 - 2013-11-10 17:22:36 UTC
I love these CCP Outrage threads. So exactly where is the proof? On a link to another website? Because, you know, websites can't be faked. On a link to a pic? Because digital pics can't be faked. On an API that if anyone looks at it now will just see how many skill points he has, not like it's gonna show that he was reimbursed.

Good troll. 10/10
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#433 - 2013-11-10 17:28:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
CCP would lock 'rumour' threads in a heartbeat. This is the 22 page...so... Something must be up.

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#434 - 2013-11-10 17:31:32 UTC
dexington wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
I'm also going to stop you right here because the rest of your post was an embarrassment to you and your corp and you should probably just go back and edit it all out.


It's a shame you didn't have time to stop Darius JOHNSON


No one can stop Darius JOHNSON.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#435 - 2013-11-10 17:33:02 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love these CCP Outrage threads. So exactly where is the proof? On a link to another website?


CCP's censure of any and all links to moderation necessitates a third-party site.

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Anomaly One
Doomheim
#436 - 2013-11-10 17:34:27 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
CCP would lock 'rumour' threads in a heartbeat. This is the 22 page...so... Something must be up.


I haven't seen an ISD or a DEV comment anything in these 2 days, I bet ya you can post p0rn on GD right now and it won't be locked for a while.

Nevertheless we'll have to wait till tomorrow.
Onyx Nyx
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#437 - 2013-11-10 17:36:57 UTC
brb... throwing a package of popcorn into the micro.

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#438 - 2013-11-10 17:37:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Marzetti
Altrue wrote:
Well, CCP gave him back some skillpoints. They didn't offered him more than what he should've had anyway.
is unproductive, nothing in the article says that this could happen in a true pvp situation.


It was a ~true pvp situation~.
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#439 - 2013-11-10 17:47:22 UTC
Why do i see blue standings with ppl on the forum which i dont even know?
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#440 - 2013-11-10 17:54:51 UTC
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