Intergalactic Summit

It is interesting to note that those who speak so highly of Duty and Honour and Sacrifice For The State would so openly and happily disregard orders given by Sami Okuuda of the Caldari Navy. Especially so brazenly and publicly. How strong and smart you must feel to insult Wing Commander Okuuda from the comforts of your armchair, when most of you didn't even answer the call in the first place, much less be forced to make the choice between saving yourselves and your crews or sacrifice for a greater goal. How easy it must be to make your judgement with the benefit of hindsight and post-action reports.

Granted, I did not lose my ship thanks to spatial distortions leaving me three jumps behind most of the fleet. By the time I had jumped through the Doril gate, most of the bubbles and camps were gone and I was able to slip through easily. Through luck and skill, I managed to survive along with the single crewman of my stealth bomber. I never really had to make much of a choice. By the time I was finally able to fly my ship through the gelatin soup that was spatial time-dilation, it was already over.

Yet some of you speaking so proudly here weren't even there to begin with. You ignored the call for aid. It wasn't made just by CONCORD. It was by your very own State. It was lead by someone with a longer service record than some of you have been alive. Who are you to question and ridicule those who gave their lives in service to the State? Who are you to disrespect heiian like that along with the tens of thousands of fallen crewmen who gave their lives for the State? I would expect such from foreigners... but not you, Pyre Falcon. Not you.

You reek of shame.

That choice is yours to make, but you needn't pile scorn upon those who lost their lives answering the call.

You as a commander may choose to disregard the call for volunteer service. I know that as well as anybody, as I have refused to take part in the volunteer militia conflict. I can't and don't begrudge you for choosing not to assist.

What irritates me however are your self-satisfied comments in this thread as if you have a damned place to comment on it at all. You weren't there, and that's fine. That is your choice as a freelance captain. You once told me that I had no place to comment on those who give sacrifice for the Protectorate, because I do not fly with them and do not agree with the conflict. Now I say it to you. Your idle commentary disrespect the fallen.

So go back to your Rook, Tuulinen. Go back to your drinks and your still living kirjuun, and leave this topic to those who still mourn the loss of theirs.

You chose to take no part in this... try following that choice to the end and keep your opinions on it to yourself.

Your opinion is noted, Vice-Admiral. Thankfully I am not in your chain of command and nor am I an Ishukone citizen. With the greatest of respect you've stated your opinion and this exchange has no further useful purpose.

I will say, for the public record, that I feel that ignoring the lessons that are written in the blood of those who did trust Concord is the greatest possible disrespect for the Fallen.

I'm afraid I have nothing other than sarcastic formalities to offer on the subject of who is the better Caldari. Unless it's a discussion you'd like to have in person. Perhaps if those who lost crew want to mourn them together, a thread separate from 'Concord is a laughing stock' ought to be set up?

Suuolo, I thought you knew me better than that. I have heaped no scorn on those who gave their lives following the orders of their commanders. My scorn was reserved strictly for their immortal officers, who didn't have to share that sacrifice.

Now, I know I'm equally immune from that greatest of consequences, but I have tried to ensure that the loss of my crews has had meaning, at least.

Heiian has been made out to be a lot of things, Chūjō, but it seems only a recent thing that its ideal of obedience has been prefixed with blind, and its ideal of sacrifice with pointless. If the core concepts of our society can now be used to condemn a failure to decorate some nullsec warlords' kill statistics as dishonorable, I fear Provist memetic engineers have managed to do some lasting damage.

And I wish them nothing less, may their Ancestors recognise and welcome them, may the winds blow warmly upon them.

I am curious as to which Navy Fleet the State capsuleers were supporting, though? Did the call come directly from the Caldari Navy or was it, as it appeared to be, a CTA by Concord 'in the name of' the signatory fleets?

So... One ship, then.

Vikarion, you have either not fully read or misunderstood what I've said. I'm not going to reply to your bait.

Iwan Terpalen, you as well have misunderstood what I said.

Desiderya, you're simply trolling at this point.

I have not berated anybody for the choice of not showing up. Only for posting their peanut gallery opinions here and elsewhere from the comfort of hindsight and not having been there at all. There is a distinct difference.

But that's alright. You four clearly don't agree, and you don't have the fortitude to admit what you said was in poor taste. So, again...



I would appreciate if there will be no other quotes and comments and questions made for me; as I'd like to actually follow through on that.

Thanks.