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Kan Deadman
Deadly Shadow Clan
Deadly Shadow Bastion
#1 - 2013-11-09 14:57:48 UTC
So, I'm currently at work and don't know if this has been asked before (and I will update later) but:

Has CCP ever considered, what with the exploration expansion and all, to disable comms (global, corp, alliance, and other chat channels) for people venturing into unknown space?

I have a few ideas on what and how could this be done and a very long justification as to why it should be done and I will add to this thread as soon as I finish work.

Placing it here for discussion initiation.
Montami
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2013-11-09 15:04:37 UTC
That's not how faster-than-light communication with quantum entanglement works.
Montami
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2013-11-09 15:05:44 UTC
That means no.
Kan Deadman
Deadly Shadow Clan
Deadly Shadow Bastion
#4 - 2013-11-09 15:07:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kan Deadman
Montami wrote:
That's not how faster-than-light communication with quantum entanglement works.


Quantum entaglement communication would entail that the state of the observed particle (electron spin for example) be predictable - which has been proven to not be the case. Therefore, quantun entaglement communications is mathematically impossible (at least at the moment).

If that is the lore of Eve when it comes to comms, then we have a problem with the lore and scientific plausibility.

Ninja edit; I see your point though, following any type of other comm justification would be impossible.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#5 - 2013-11-09 15:26:28 UTC
You mean like, disable all the chat channels this dude who just went into a WH has, so he ... ... just speaks to them on Teamspeak / whatever other out-of-game communication tool?
Ezekiel Ironstone
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-11-09 15:29:13 UTC
Is there really even such a thing as "unknown space" in Eve?
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#7 - 2013-11-09 15:36:10 UTC
Ezekiel Ironstone wrote:
Is there really even such a thing as "unknown space" in Eve?


I'm pretty sure there is. I once found Asteroids on a Safespot i made while warping.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#8 - 2013-11-09 19:47:24 UTC
This is a really bad idea. No matter how realistic or immersive it may be, it's terrible game design.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#9 - 2013-11-09 20:16:02 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2013-11-09 20:20:14 UTC
Hmmmm...

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This has some 'nerf AFK cloaking' overtones to it. Ill keep an eye on this.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2013-11-09 23:07:25 UTC
Uhh...why? This would just punish smaller groups, as the bigger ones already have jabber, mumble, teamspeak etc all set up and ready...
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#12 - 2013-11-09 23:14:27 UTC
Kan Deadman wrote:
Montami wrote:
That's not how faster-than-light communication with quantum entanglement works.


Quantum entaglement communication would entail that the state of the observed particle (electron spin for example) be predictable - which has been proven to not be the case. Therefore, quantun entaglement communications is mathematically impossible (at least at the moment).

If that is the lore of Eve when it comes to comms, then we have a problem with the lore and scientific plausibility.

Ninja edit; I see your point though, following any type of other comm justification would be impossible.


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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-11-10 04:40:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
so all this does it hurt the people not in corps/alliances where 3rd party comms is offered. Crew has a person or persons who spring for ts, jabber, mirc, etc so they'd still have this.

How exactly is this a good thing? Game gives enough reasons to join the "blob" as it were....doesn't really need more tbh.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#14 - 2013-11-10 04:59:45 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
so all this does it hurt the people not in corps/alliances where 3rd party comms is offered. Crew has a person or persons who spring for ts, jabber, mirc, etc so they'd still have this.

How exactly is this a good thing? Game gives enough reasons to join the "blob" as it were....doesn't really need more tbh.


Your post has inspired me to just leave this here...
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-11-10 05:02:53 UTC
Kan Deadman wrote:
If that is the lore of Eve when it comes to comms, then we have a problem with the lore and scientific plausibility.


I'd say the flight model Eve uses would be a bigger problem if you care about scientific plausibility.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#16 - 2013-11-10 05:55:43 UTC
Hesod Adee wrote:
Kan Deadman wrote:
If that is the lore of Eve when it comes to comms, then we have a problem with the lore and scientific plausibility.


I'd say the flight model Eve uses would be a bigger problem if you care about scientific plausibility.


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Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#17 - 2013-11-10 06:29:54 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Hesod Adee wrote:
Kan Deadman wrote:
If that is the lore of Eve when it comes to comms, then we have a problem with the lore and scientific plausibility.


I'd say the flight model Eve uses would be a bigger problem if you care about scientific plausibility.


*klaxon noise* All hands, prepare for emergency surfacing!

Where is the surface? Where is the surface?

And regarding to initial topic. I don't see any reason for disabling comms, but there should be an option to do so manually anyway. (oh yeah, to pretend to be offline?..)
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#18 - 2013-11-10 13:39:08 UTC
rather than disable, I would like to see a form of delay on showing up in local. Countless nullbear ganks have been ruined because the moment you jump in through a wormhole they know you are here. In that sense wormholes are no more "unknown" than other nullsecs.

Event Organizer of EVE North East
Kan Deadman
Deadly Shadow Clan
Deadly Shadow Bastion
#19 - 2013-11-12 15:15:10 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Faster Than Light Communication works like this.


I see, nice way to go around the problem, although highly unlikely. On the other hand, these are internet spaceships we are talking about so anything is possible.

Anyway, turns out this is an unintended spam thread because OP is a *** who didn't do their reading on EVE lore.

Muchos gracias amigos.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#20 - 2013-11-12 15:21:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Kan Deadman wrote:
So, I'm currently at work and don't know if this has been asked before (and I will update later) but:

Has CCP ever considered, what with the exploration expansion and all, to disable comms (global, corp, alliance, and other chat channels) for people venturing into unknown space?

I have a few ideas on what and how could this be done and a very long justification as to why it should be done and I will add to this thread as soon as I finish work.

Placing it here for discussion initiation.


This is stupid. And even if you had some justification to make it worthwhile, it would still be stupid because its simply not feasible, due to alts and out-of-game channels. And I realize that "stupid" is kind of an insulting word for someone's ideas, particularly when posted in this part of the forums. But I feel the idea is bad enough in so many different ways to justify use of the word.

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