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Nice Job CCP. Now Can We All Get 17m Free Skillpoints Also?

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#221 - 2013-11-09 01:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: dexington
Impala59 wrote:
The only solution is 17m sps to every account. I am waiting with baited breath.


the only solution is that ccp first remove 17M sp from every account, and then add 17M sp to every account.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#222 - 2013-11-09 01:21:46 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

There's a difference between having your account stolen and willingly giving someone your login details, and then even admitting to doing so.



So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.

No it's not okey. Okey would be you getting banned for account sharing. ;)
Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#223 - 2013-11-09 01:22:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Ramlrez
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.



Nobody stole anything, he wasn't man enough to admit his error. That guy was a fool, he got fooled and paid the price of his stupidity. On top of that he admits he shares accounts.


If anything, that guy had to be banned, not rewarded.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#224 - 2013-11-09 01:22:56 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

There's a difference between having your account stolen and willingly giving someone your login details, and then even admitting to doing so.



So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.

No it's not okey. Okey would be you getting banned for account sharing. ;)


So account sharing should be legal

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Zazz Razzamatazz
Bad Touches
#225 - 2013-11-09 01:23:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zazz Razzamatazz
Knights Armament wrote:

So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.


Yes, because you would have violated the EULA-
"You may not disclose your Password to anyone or allow anyone to use your Password to access the System or play EVE. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Password and for any damage, harm, lost or deleted characters, etc. resulting from your disclosure, or allowing the disclosure, of any Password, or from use by any person of your Password." (emphasis mine)
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#226 - 2013-11-09 01:25:38 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

There's a difference between having your account stolen and willingly giving someone your login details, and then even admitting to doing so.



So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.


Only complete morons use the same passwords over multiple sites. So yeah, it'd be your fault. CCP can't fix your stupidity. Only you can.


Mr Epeen Cool
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#227 - 2013-11-09 01:26:03 UTC
Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

There's a difference between having your account stolen and willingly giving someone your login details, and then even admitting to doing so.



So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.


Yes, because you would have violated the EULA-
"You may not disclose your Password to anyone or allow anyone to use your Password to access the System or play EVE. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Password and for any damage, harm, lost or deleted characters, etc. resulting from your disclosure, or allowing the disclosure, of any Password, or from use by any person of your Password." (emphasis mine)



Obviously the EULA isn't perfect, if I died how would someone notify people in game, or on the forums if they didn't have access to my account? What about Vile Rats account that has assets that belong to goonwaffe, shouldn't they be able to retrieve those assets from his account, or for his children/wife to play the account.

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PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#228 - 2013-11-09 01:26:10 UTC
Fck it, I say remove 17mil SP from EVERY account. Only way to be sure you get EVERYONE that account shares. Need to be fair and consistent, amirite? Twisted
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#229 - 2013-11-09 01:28:38 UTC
Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:

So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.


Yes, because you would have violated the EULA-
"You may not disclose your Password to anyone or allow anyone to use your Password to access the System or play EVE. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Password and for any damage, harm, lost or deleted characters, etc. resulting from your disclosure, or allowing the disclosure, of any Password, or from use by any person of your Password." (emphasis mine)

Also, in case he tries to claim "But I didn't share my EVE password. I shared my facebook password and they just happened to be the same."
https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
Facebook also doesn't allow account sharing.
Reiisha
#230 - 2013-11-09 01:31:43 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:
Yes, because you would have violated the EULA-
"You may not disclose your Password to anyone or allow anyone to use your Password to access the System or play EVE. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Password and for any damage, harm, lost or deleted characters, etc. resulting from your disclosure, or allowing the disclosure, of any Password, or from use by any person of your Password." (emphasis mine)



Obviously the EULA isn't perfect, if I died how would someone notify people in game, or on the forums if they didn't have access to my account? What about Vile Rats account that has assets that belong to goonwaffe, shouldn't they be able to retrieve those assets from his account, or for his children/wife to play the account.


Why would people need to be notified that someone stopped playing? Wouldn't it be stupid to leave so many assets under the control of just 1 player? Your account is your account, not someone else's.

That said, CCP has kinda dropped the ball here. Heavy was responsible for the account, if he made it so easy that someone could log in to it and do stuff about it, it's his responsibility, not CCP's. If anything, he should have received *at least* a temp ban from CCP.

I hope the responsible GM is being given a stern talking to. Setting a precedent like this is almost enough reason to get fired on the spot - This isn't a mistake you can afford to make.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#231 - 2013-11-09 01:32:00 UTC
It seems like the only people who have a problem with this reimbursement are trolls, and people who gain pleasure due to sadism.

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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#232 - 2013-11-09 01:32:47 UTC
+1 OP
Erotica 1 might be a legitimate ISK scammer, but the points s/he makes in this OP are very valid.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#233 - 2013-11-09 01:32:58 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:
Yes, because you would have violated the EULA-
"You may not disclose your Password to anyone or allow anyone to use your Password to access the System or play EVE. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Password and for any damage, harm, lost or deleted characters, etc. resulting from your disclosure, or allowing the disclosure, of any Password, or from use by any person of your Password." (emphasis mine)



Obviously the EULA isn't perfect, if I died how would someone notify people in game, or on the forums if they didn't have access to my account? What about Vile Rats account that has assets that belong to goonwaffe, shouldn't they be able to retrieve those assets from his account, or for his children/wife to play the account.


Why would people need to be notified that someone stopped playing? Wouldn't it be stupid to leave so many assets under the control of just 1 player? Your account is your account, not someone else's.

That said, CCP has kinda dropped the ball here. Heavy was responsible for the account, if he made it so easy that someone could log in to it and do stuff about it, it's his responsibility, not CCP's. If anything, he should have received *at least* a temp ban from CCP.

I hope the responsible GM is being given a stern talking to. Setting a precedent like this is almost enough reason to get fired on the spot - This isn't a mistake you can afford to make.



Well if someone I know goes missing I am required to file a police report.

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Praise the Yeti
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#234 - 2013-11-09 01:33:00 UTC
Those of you who are focussing on the account sharing aspect of this thread do not have the ability to see the wider picture.

CCP "gifted" back 17m SP lost under legit mechanics, shame on you who can't see where the real hurr durr is.

Will they ever learn ?
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#235 - 2013-11-09 01:35:14 UTC
Praise the Yeti wrote:
Those of you who are focussing on the account sharing aspect of this thread do not have the ability to see the wider picture.

CCP "gifted" back 17m SP lost under legit mechanics, shame on you who can't see where the real hurr durr is.

Will they ever learn ?



But accounts compromised aren't legit mechanics.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#236 - 2013-11-09 01:35:15 UTC
Hey CCP, I've lost quite a bit of SP over the years due to clone loss, since this is apparently not a game mechanic, I'd like my refund please.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#237 - 2013-11-09 01:38:14 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Hey CCP, I've lost quite a bit of SP over the years due to clone loss, since this is apparently not a game mechanic, I'd like my refund please.

Have you ever lost a T3? If so you should petition those skill points as well.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#238 - 2013-11-09 01:38:15 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Hey CCP, I've lost quite a bit of SP over the years due to clone loss, since this is apparently not a game mechanic, I'd like my refund please.

It is a game mechanic if you lose it on your own without your account being compromised by someone else.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#239 - 2013-11-09 01:39:27 UTC
CCP...

Before the Battlecruiser skills were split, I was shitfaced drunk, forgot to update my clone, and lost 12 days of training in Battlecruiser V.

Now I understand that is my fault, and I probably shouldn't have been playing drunk, but...

Y'know...

Gotta be fair to your players, right?

Roll

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Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#240 - 2013-11-09 01:41:33 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
CCP...

Before the Battlecruiser skills were split, I was shitfaced drunk, forgot to update my clone, and lost 12 days of training in Battlecruiser V.

Now I understand that is my fault, and I probably shouldn't have been playing drunk, but...

Y'know...

Gotta be fair to your players, right?

Roll

You could always claim your brother did it Blink