Intergalactic Summit

I come before you today to condemn the actions of one Oneida of the corporation Unleashed Fury (UNL) who broke a cease fire that was brokered in good faith with the Star Faction Alliance.

Gallente Heavy Industries was part of the TriNova alliance when the cease fire was brokered in good faith, I was the Alliance leader at the time. I saw that the fundimental princples of the Star Faction as being compatible with the goal of my Corporation and at the time, my Alliance. I instructed our diplomats to make peace with Star Faction and for a time we enjoyed a peaceful relationship with them. I can say that I have no record of them breaking their promise to Gallente Heavy Industries.

A few months ago I stepped down as leader of the alliance to concentrate on building my corporation and mentoring the newer members. During that time, I saw the tember of the Alliance change. The Pirate Alliance, Malum Exuro began to dicate alliance activites in the Mallugier constellation, something that didn't sit well with our corporation.

A number of times since I stepped down as alliance leader a corporation vote was raised to leave the alliance and until about 2 weeks ago, we had voted to stay for some reason or another outside our control. This time, however, it was decided that we were going to leave. Just before our departure, the cease fire was broken and we were caught in a war. At first we were going to ride out the war, not wanting to leave the alliance, and some good people, in a time of war. But, it became apparent that we were not welcome in the alliance. Members of Malum and of UNL treated the members of Gallente Heavy Industries with extreme disrespect. In many cases leaving use to fend for ourselves with no support. I can not and will not allow my brothers and sisters of my corporation to be treated in this manner, so we departed from the alliance as soon as we could.

As a free corporation away from the alliance we seek a peaceful relationship with Star Faction and would be willing to engage in a mutal non-agression pack to ensure that in the future, hostilities don't tear down the peace that we originally sought.

As of this evening I have been in contact with Star Fraction diplomats and have agreed to these terms - let us restore honour to our relationship and learn the hard lessons taught through association with dishonourable territorial pirates

Nothing wrong with cooperation and good diplomacy, but whatever happened to private comms? Public forums like this are supposed to be areas of discussion for more than two people, or at least, for more than a simple single message exchange.

A public declaration of war, denunciation, declaration of objectives, or conversely, a public declaration of alliance, or major shift in policy... these are all fine, even if they are phrased in the form of a "public letter" aimed at a particular entity or person.

However, routine stuff of "one of my pilots went berserk and shot you guys" really is not deserving of a public apology letter.

Come to think of it, why do these threads seem to involve Star Fraction so much? Is it some sort of requirement of being a -SF- friend that you have to publicly declare so?

Why should positive outcomes be passed by private coms while negative ones occupy Galnet time would be my question in return? These matters address the close of a conflict that involved hundreds of pilots from seasoned veterans to novice miners and industrialists knowing their first taste of space combat and radical politics. Why deny the Galnet audience access to such unfolding dramas?



Perhaps you have skimmed the political issues at play here. A war has been fought to defend the principles of FreeSpace and free access to resources in lowsec Placid where the notion of slumlord alliances renting out moons to weaker entities has been confronted and dashed to ruins. Alliances have fragmented and been destroyed, some have emerged wiser and others have learned valuable lessons. This is not simply a matter of lone pilots shooting each other in the darkness of nullsec. And as such entirely appropriate publicity material in the Galnet medium from an organization that considers publicity a key weapon in its arsenal.



One does not have to make a public declaration of friendship with Star Fraction. But if one has been at war and seeks resolution of that issue it is often the case that ceasefire terms require public notification to keep matters above board. We find that treaties publicly declared and co-signed are often more binding than handshakes in private smoke-filled rooms. When public treaties are dishonoured there are few doubts about who is to blame.

As for why these threads involve Star Fraction so much?

We fight a lot of wars for our beliefs. While others prefer to make threads about their coffee-shop musings, off colour jests and idle philosophical chit-chats we make them about the results of war in space.

I don't apologize for that.

Oddly enough, even the most discussion-less seeming of public announcements seem to spark discussion for some neutral observers. It's quite difficult to say what will spark discussion and what will not amongst the less-directly involved pilots of the cluster. I have gone under the theory that it's probably best to simply make the terms of a ceasefire known, for the reasons Jade has outlined regarding accountability, and let the comments from the sidelines fall where they may.

Never fails to amuse me how much more respect we pay to our ex-opponents than they receive from the general galnet rabble. Still, the fact you consider a negotiated ceasefire and return to a profitable state of friendship a "shaming" says more about your politics in the Caldari Loyalist 4th District alliance than it does about ours in the Star Fraction movement Van Cleef.

I can't believe I'm actually defending Constantine here, but in all honesty your entire argument is pointless and repetitive.

SF likes to have their enemies publicly surrender to them and state their terms. Whether it's to show their fight against Nationalist powers and the chokehold they keep on most of the cluster's resources, or just to publicly stroke their ego is their own damn business.

If these threads don't concern or interest you, or you don't want to deal with them, then grow a brain and don't read them.

It ain't rocket science.

I tend to post when it concerns me, when my outfit is mentioned, or when I have something to add from first hand experience that admittedly isn't always positive in nature.

Although to be perfectly honest, I expected the usual State sympathisers to jump to the defence of someone else who's flying the provist banner.

After all, I'm Gurista. Such is life.

What is more impressive?

A war that featuered a handful of ship kills and skirmishing before one side decided that the arguments and philosophy of the other was most persuasive and they preferred a negotiated return to friendly standings and potential profitable relationships going forward?

Or

A war that sees the death of hundreds of vessels and concludes with the remnents of one side hiding in stations and bitterly lamenting their fate as the wreckage of their alliance comes collapsing down around them and the losing side is genuinely "shamed" at their lack of diplomatic capability or vision to extracate alliance mates from a terrible situation?

Gallente Heavy Industries is example of the first.
Your own onetime Kimotoro Directive would be example of the second.

While clearly the total destruction of your old alliance was more "impressive" from a total mayhem and slaughter gnashing of nationalist teeth perspective it had no real closure because you preferred to flee in the night and turn your coats rather than sue for peace.

Whereas I and my comrades tend to see enlightened negotiated settlements between free capsuleers (as exampled in the GHIND case) as more impressive displays of rational intellect and wits in general and are certainly more courageous acts of diplomacy.

Its easy to grit ones teeth and go hide in the shadows silently whispering "never say die" while abandoning one's cause and position and leaving others to suffer Van Cleef.

Much harder to put things right to the common benefit.

Perhaps you are due some introspection on the matter.

Verone, perhaps I lost something in translation since I need to "grow a brain" but you entered into a conversation that you had no stake in, to tell others not to enter into conversations that they do not have stakes in. Thanks for the advice, and Jade can stick up for herself.

Jade, I see you are still clutching that line. The "Total Annihilation" of the Kimotoro Directive came when the alliance executor didn't pay the alliance bill and the alliance was disbanded. The alliance was not "mine", CAIN was not the executor corporation. In fact, when you claimed victory over the Kimotoro Directive we had already left the alliance due to internal issues with leadership to pursue our seperate war with your alliance. The point is moot, since this was several years ago, and CAIN has not engaged in formal hostilities with the Star Fraction since. The Kimotoro Directives failure as an alliance is about as relevant to the failure of your Venal alliance at the hands of Space Invaders many years ago. It is all distant history.

I do not know how this turned into another governmentalist versus anarchist discussion. The point I made was the puppet being moved by the puppet master, and the fact that it was, and is, a PR move. It is designed to give the Star Fraction a community sense of power and ability. I simply pointed out that their target was quite weak and not prepared for a fight with a group such as Star Fraction.

I do not much care for grandstanding such as this, as you did not see the Fourth make grandoise statements after we recently destroyed an alliance that had attempted to invade our space. I understand the concept of perception is power, I just differ in Star Fractions methods.