EVE New Citizens Q&A

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I prefer the Abaddon because it does amazing DPS and tanks like a beast for the money. You need good energy skills and you're down a bit on speed and targeting resolution compared to the Apoc (or Geddon i think). Apoc has a laser range boost but loses the damage modifier of the Abaddon.

Awesome, thank you! I'll take out a Harby first, perhaps an Oracle when they're released.

Id say geddon, the abadon may be more survivable but for twice the investment. Pulse lasers can hit out to 50-60km with radio/scorch and wreck people if you close the distance for multifrequency so I wouldent worry about beams unless your in a sniper fleet in which case you should be in an apoc. As said earlier don't worry about cap stability, most small fleet engaments only last about 5 min of fighting at a time so if cap booster give you 4 - 6 min of cap your fine

"Stable" as in "Doesn't deplete in 30 seconds" over "Depletes in 5 minutes"

You're going to run into problems with this one.
For starters, battleships in general are not all that good solo due to their relatively low mobility, trouble locking small objects, and due to the fact that large weapons have issues applying damage to [much] smaller enemies.
Second, Amarr battleships are notoriously inflexible with respect to their fittings. They are, essentially, the "soldier/melee" class that most other games have and the only real question is what "flavor" of "soldier/melee" you want.



Cap stability is overrated for PvP... especially for Amarr ships. You only need enough capacitor to last the battle (which is generally about 3 or 5 minutes for solo/small gang fight) and, even then, it's nothing a cap booster can't fix (which is already a "must" for Amarr gunboats anyways).

With the "solid shields" bit... don't be concerned about that. If you get into a "real" engagement your shields will melt right off. Not much you can do about that aside from putting on Invulnerability Fields and/or Shield Extenders... but this shouldn't even be an option because "dual tanking" is bad unless you planning on being bait.




No Amarrian battleship fulfills all those criteria. Each one has it's own "thing" that it is good at and glaring weaknesses that can be exploited.

Armageddon = can deal a pretty good amount of damage for it's price, has a "utility high slot" that can help with point defense or RR gangs, has a large-ish drone bay, and can field a pretty solid armor tank. However, the 'Geddon is fairly inflexible with its fitting due to its lack of medium slots and possesses "lesser" stats due to being a Tier 1 battleship.

Apocalypse = Probably the most flexible of all the Amarrian battleships... it can be set up to be a sniper or a brawler, shield tank or armor tank. It's range bonus allows to you reach out and "touch" people that would be safe from most other ships. The problems with the Apoc are that it isn't capable of dishing out the DPS that the other Amarrian battleships can and that it has a so-so armor tank.

Abaddon = The bonuses of this ship say it all... "tank and gank." It can field one of the most impressive tanks within its entire class without giving up much in the way of firepower. In a gang fight, you will find yourself being the LAST to be primaried. However, this ship is not without it's problems. With no utility high-slot and a small-ish drone bay it has limited point-defense abilities. Moreover, it's probably the least mobile of all the Amarrian battleships (which means that it's easy to catch you) and has a weak capacitor (which necessitates the fitting of a cap booster).




None of the above. You'll find more (and better) options by looking outside of the Amarrian line. Two ships I'd recommend would be the Minmitar Tempest and Gallente Dominix.
The Tempest essentially fills all your criteria, it's only glaring weakness being its weak-ish tank. Fit and flown properly, it can outrun and kite battleships, most battlecruisers, and even some cruisers.
The Dominix has a lot going for it as well... very flexible fitting options and the largest drone bay in its class (which gives you more flexibility with tactics). One of the more popular fits (and my favorite) is the Neutralizing Domi. The bane of any frigate/cruiser gang, it can wipe out the capacitor of anything sub battlecruiser while applying DPS with bonused drones.
The Dominix does have two glaring issues though; it's slow and its DPS is sub-par compared to most other battleships.

And if you cross train Minmatar an Amaar like me you can one day fly the legendary pvp monster "Bhaalgorn" :P

This is from a Thread on cheap ships.

It cost 20 mil more then a fully fit/rigged Harbinger with OK stats and if you loose it the higher insurance will make the cost close to even.