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I have 2 accounts.
I train one character on each account.
I pay for both with plex.

is the same as

I have one account.
I train two characters on the account
I pay 2 plex to do this.

Neither are what you appear think they are.

Also Nfain has a valid point. If character a and character b want to fly that nice shiny ship, they both need to skill up all of the skills required. Yes you get twice the sp with dual character training but you need to learn twice as much.

No. All characters are trained the same; no mechanics are skipped.

Because we have no mechanics for skipping the character training process. All characters are trained the same.

We can't have “PLEX for two skills” because that would entail paying for the ability to skip the game mechanic that ensures that all characters are trained the same.

If you want to train twice as fast, why aren't you asking CCP to make you train twice as fast? Why do you have to invent some silly pay-to-whatever scheme to make it so?

Then just use the dual character training and quit crying.

I'm simply asking for the utility of a mechanic that we already have to be increased.

On a side note: The hostility of this forum is quite amusing, very different from years back when the game was full of real players.

Did all those real players beg for free SP too?

It does not, but obtaining a character with far more SP than you currently would have been able to accumulate is. Which is what this suggestion is based upon along with the ability to have twice the utility of skill training.



Indeed this is true, however training 2 characters at the same time is no different. You are training at twice the speed as people who can only afford the utility of one.



I have argued dual character training and the use of the character bazaar already. Please refer to those post. On a second thought as well, this actually offers less utility, as what is the difference between a single character with twice the utility versus 2 characters with the same utility. Especially when two character with the same utility could be used to gain more of an advantage than a single character with twice the utility.

My suggestion serves all the purpose, as if there is no difference, where is the harm in adding it?

I don't see any begging for free SP in the forum post. And also yes, we all have asked for free SP. It came along with the following situations

- Extended DT
- Any time CCP made the community mad
- Learning Skills Revamp
- Any time our precious leet ships are changed
- Any time skill requirements were changed

and through the following game changing mechanics

- Implants
- Neural Remaps
- Character trading System

What! You sir are so full of crap, years ago it was much more harsh.

With this new kinder, gentler CCP and their ban happy hippies, Eve-O is pretty much sanitized and stale.

And no to dual training. If you been around long enough you know this is bad, and you should feel bad just for suggesting it.

I'm not saying that it isn't a terrible and a die in a fire idea. It is however implemented, we can't fight it, so join it, enjoy it, and make it better.

…means training a character the same as everyone else, which means it does not skip any mechanics.

No. You're training at the same speed as everyone else. You're just doing it on two characters. This is very different from training at twice the speed as everyone else since it does not allow you to reach any given ability any faster — at best, it allows you to reach it at the same speed as everyone else, but twice.

…and completely misunderstood what they do in terms of adding ability or utility to your character (hint: none whatsoever).

I can fly everything that does not require me to train a battleship skill. If I start training a second character, how long does it take before this character is able to fly a capship? If I buy a character from the bazaar, how long does it take before this character is able to fly a capship? If I could train at double speed, how long would it then take before this character was able to fly a capship?

How does being twice as good as you otherwise should be offer less utility? You're making very little sense here.

The harm is that your suggestion is completely unlike the pre-existing means of creating characters in that you want to be able to pay to skip over the mechanic that regulates the speed of that creation. You know this full well, or you would be satisfied with the existing methods since “there is no difference”. Your suggestion serves only one purpose: to introduce a means to avoid mechanics you don't like by paying for them. This is an awful and game-breaking purpose.

So, really, take your pick: either you know full well the ridiculous P2W-like advantage this will give and the harm that means, or you honestly believe that there is no difference, which means the harm is that you add something that you must also believe is completely pointless. Either way, there's absolutely no reason for (and lots of reasons again) implementing anything of the kind.

And again, if you want to train twice as fast, why aren't you asking CCP to make you train twice as fast? Why do you have to invent some silly pay-to-whatever scheme to make it so?