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my First exp in NULL

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ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-11-07 16:39:00 UTC
so today despite others saying that im too new to even try to go to null sec,i did with a rifter fitted with T1 stuff
and i know it was stupid,
yet i LOVED the exp,the adrenaline rush the moment u enter low sec and go deeper into null
while i was keep going deeper into a -0.6 system ,most systems were empty(no one in local channel)
but when i saw ppl in local,i asked them to give me an opportunity to exp pvp
either they all were afk or they didnt care about me,i was there willing to die to exp the fun,but no one seemed to care
dont get me wrong i know u have to be selfish and cruel to survive in eve and its fine by me,but i didnt know u would leave a free kill alone
any way i reached that -0.6 system kept begging for a try,but got nothing,finally after 30min waiting there,i tried to get back
after 2-3 system i encountered some one,i began to panick lol,my heart was pounding HARD,yet i knew i wouldnt lose much,i can always buy plex to replace my loses i dont care about isk, all i care is having fun,then a convo request pops up,i accept and the dude started to laughs at me after poding me,i told him thnx for the exp,then he said thank me when i kill ur pod,then he killed my pod,WOOOOOW my first death was amazing,for a sec i thought it was game over,yet i knew its not over,it was like a feeling
it was AWSOME,well i was typing to the guy that thank you for showing me what pvp is like in eve,before sending my post he said how stupid i am for trying to come to null,and that null isnt for newbies ,its for the big guns,and more exp players
i was planing to do the same thing to try to get the hang of pvp,and willing to lose ALOT,but this guy was right

so im here to ask,when ill be able to go to null? (im thinking after 6month)
cus every one says null is where all the fun is,and the whole point of me playing an online game is to have fun,isnt it the point for all of us?i mean its an "online" game

i already sold a plex for the +5 implants so i meant 6month of training with +5 implants
oh and im 10days old and need around 15d training for cybernetic V
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-11-07 16:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: SKINE DMZ
I strongly advise you to go live in lowsec near a FW area, so much frigate pvp where you'd actually have a chance as well. Nullsec is a bit of a different play style, but low sec is filled with cruisers below solo/small gang pvp. :-) You would love it, look for a pirate corp like black rifters club or even stay frosty.

Move Lowsec -> buy 20 frigates and modules to fit them and go out and lose them it's good fun.

I disagree

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#3 - 2013-11-07 16:54:23 UTC
Congratulations. Hold onto that feeling, that adrenaline rush is the best moment of playing Eve Online. Too soon you will get used to it. While there will always some exitement, it will never come close to that first time Cool

Just one advice: Train Infomorph Psychology to be able to install a Jump Clone and use that one once you install +5 implants so you won´t lose them once installed.

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ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-11-07 16:56:12 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Congratulations. Hold onto that feeling, that adrenaline rush is the best moment of playing Eve Online. Too soon you will get used to it. While there will always some exitement, it will never come close to that first time Cool

Just one advice: Train Infomorph Psychology to be able to install a Jump Clone and use that one once you install +5 implants so you won´t lose them once installed.


oh i didnt know that lol
THANK YOU
ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-11-07 17:04:27 UTC
SKINE DMZ wrote:
I strongly advise you to go live in lowsec near a FW area, so much frigate pvp where you'd actually have a chance as well. Nullsec is a bit of a different play style, but low sec is filled with cruisers below solo/small gang pvp. :-) You would love it, look for a pirate corp like black rifters club or even stay frosty.

Move Lowsec -> buy 20 frigates and modules to fit them and go out and lose them it's good fun.

thank you for the tip,im gonna get my first kill soon any day
oh i wonder how that feels :D
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#6 - 2013-11-07 17:08:29 UTC
ak3ent wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Congratulations. Hold onto that feeling, that adrenaline rush is the best moment of playing Eve Online. Too soon you will get used to it. While there will always some exitement, it will never come close to that first time Cool

Just one advice: Train Infomorph Psychology to be able to install a Jump Clone and use that one once you install +5 implants so you won´t lose them once installed.


oh i didnt know that lol
THANK YOU


Establishing a Jump Clone might be bothersome since you or your Corp needs standings with NPC Corps. So, if you don´t have them, take a look at Estel Arador Corp Services, a Corp which provides standings.
You will have to join them for the few hours it takes to do your business, of course, but it certainly beats possibly losing several hundred of millions of ISK that could be used for ships and fittings. Blink

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-11-07 17:09:58 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
ak3ent wrote:
so today despite others saying that im too new to even try to go to null sec,i did with a rifter fitted with T1 stuff
and i know it was stupid,



A. Don't ever listen to anybody who say you are too new to do / try something. They are idiots.
B. What is stupid about it, you already won EVE by trying it in the first place. I know people way older then you are that are too afraid to leave high-sec.

Quote:
but when i saw ppl in local,i asked them to give me an opportunity to exp pvp
either they all were afk or they didnt care about me


Most likely they ignored you, cause they expect a trap. As usually people don't fly solo, usually the fleet is on the other side of the gate.

Quote:
i dont care about isk, all i care is having fun


You just won EVE for the 2nd time.

Quote:
it was AWSOME,well i was typing to the guy that thank you for showing me what pvp is like in eve,before sending my post he said how stupid i am for trying to come to null,and that null isnt for newbies ,its for the big guns,and more exp players


Meet one of the many idiots in EVE.

Quote:
so im here to ask,when ill be able to go to null? (im thinking after 6month)
cus every one says null is where all the fun is,and the whole point of me playing an online game is to have fun,isnt it the point for all of us?i mean its an "online" game

i already sold a plex for the +5 implants so i meant 6month of training with +5 implants
oh and im 10days old and need around 15d training for cybernetic V



1. You can go to null when ever you want. I know people who weren't even 1 month old and are living in NPC null-sec or joined a SOV holding corp (usually because they knew people in there, otherwise you will have a hard time getting in cause everybody will scream SPAI at you).

2. I wouldn't use +5 implants in a clone you are flying around. You will get podded at one point (as you found out) and that means you will lose those +5 implants with it. +5's are nice, if you stay docked because you can't play for a month or so, otherwise I would keep to +4's if you are doing low risk stuff or +2's / +3's for the more risky stuff.

Also, you can only train one skill at the time. Every skill has 2 attributes that contribute to the skill tme, if you pick a nice skill plan that only uses 2 of those attributes (All gunnery skills use the same attributes as do missiles and most of teh ship skills), you only need 2 of the implants in your head and can swap out for others if you finished / shift your skill plan

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ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-11-07 17:17:06 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

A. Don't ever listen to anybody who say you are too new to do / try something. They are idiots.
B. What is stupid about it, you already won EVE by trying it in the first place. I know people way older then you are that are too afraid to leave high-sec.


thank you,i feel encouraged
Quote:

Most likely they ignored you, cause they expect a trap. As usually people don't fly solo, usually the fleet is on the other side of the gate.

make sense i guess :P
Quote:

You just won EVE for the 2nd time.

seriously,600mil isk is like 20euro,who would care for 100mil let alone the 2mil rifter i lost,and moreeee to come,untill i get my first kill ,and the kills after that
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-11-07 17:17:51 UTC
ak3ent wrote:
J'Poll wrote:

A. Don't ever listen to anybody who say you are too new to do / try something. They are idiots.
B. What is stupid about it, you already won EVE by trying it in the first place. I know people way older then you are that are too afraid to leave high-sec.


thank you,i feel encouraged
Quote:

Most likely they ignored you, cause they expect a trap. As usually people don't fly solo, usually the fleet is on the other side of the gate.

make sense i guess :P
Quote:

You just won EVE for the 2nd time.

seriously,600mil isk is like 20euro,who would care for 100mil let alone the 2mil rifter i lost,and moreeee to come,untill i get my first kill ,and the kills after that


Check my edits, I wasn't done typing.

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ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-11-07 17:18:52 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:

Establishing a Jump Clone might be bothersome since you or your Corp needs standings with NPC Corps. So, if you don´t have them, take a look at Estel Arador Corp Services, a Corp which provides standings.
You will have to join them for the few hours it takes to do your business, of course, but it certainly beats possibly losing several hundred of millions of ISK that could be used for ships and fittings. Blink

thnx for the tips mate
wow ppl are helpfull in forums,in the game when ppl find out that your new they dont bother to even talk to you
Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
#11 - 2013-11-07 17:20:21 UTC
People hangout in the New Citizens forum because they ENJOY helping people!

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-11-07 17:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
ak3ent wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:

Establishing a Jump Clone might be bothersome since you or your Corp needs standings with NPC Corps. So, if you don´t have them, take a look at Estel Arador Corp Services, a Corp which provides standings.
You will have to join them for the few hours it takes to do your business, of course, but it certainly beats possibly losing several hundred of millions of ISK that could be used for ships and fittings. Blink

thnx for the tips mate
wow ppl are helpfull in forums,in the game when ppl find out that your new they dont bother to even talk to you


Ooh that is only here in the New Citizen forum.

Go down to General Discussion and you will see not everybody is on the forums to help.


Oh, and about the fun is in Null-sec:

That depends on the player.

Every single player in EVE has it's own way of having fun. So where and how you are having fun depends on the player.
I've been in null-sec for a while in the past, although I liked it, in the end I didn't have as much fun as I now have with what I'm doing.

Null-sec, specially SOV is more about meta gaming, bloated egos of leaders, big wars, CTA (Call to Arms - mandatory PvP) etc etc.

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Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#13 - 2013-11-07 18:51:05 UTC
Honestly, I think you're asking for trouble with the implants. Sooner or later you're going to get popped and the loss is not something that can be easily absorbed by most newbees. Besides you dont really need them. I've never had attribute implants as there is simply no need to rush the skill gain. As for being in null -- the truth is, that there are many many carebears and folk in null who only know how to pvp by blob. You do not need any particular skill set to join them, just a corp that is willing to accept a newbee. On the otherhand, if you want to solo roam against the folk living in null, then yea your skills will matter, but even more so, will be your ability as a player to fly your ship.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.

Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-11-07 19:17:44 UTC
First, I'd ignore those +5s for now, especially if you want to move to null-sec. It takes about 10 months of training with +5s to regain the time spend learning Cybernetics 5. And once you move to null-sec, you will lose your pod quite often, so you will fly with cheaper implants.
Stick with +3s or maybe +4s for now.

Second, I suggest you join one of Agony's PvP classes, as it will teach you the basic of fleet combat. (And you'll see that with a great fleet leader, even newbies in T1 frigates can be quite dangerous.) There is a class tomorrow, but it's already full, the next one will probably be in a month or so. http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/forum/2-enrollment/

And third, you don't need millions of SP to be useful in null. Many corps require a minimum of skill points, but that's more to deter spies. (Creating a trow-away spy alt is cheap, but it takes a much larger commitment to spend three months just to create a spy toon.) To get into a corp, it's usually more important that you work on your reputation, than on your skill points. So go out, get to know people, make friends and find a corp that fits with your play style.

Of course, if you want to be successful solo in null, then even 6 months might not be enough. It takes a long time to master solo combat, and for a long time pretty much everyone you encounter will either be better than you ... or not be solo. And without a scout, you'll run into a lot of gate camps.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-11-07 21:08:36 UTC
From I've read you would have infinitely more fun by faction war and living in low sec. Another thing to consider would be lookinginto RvB. It is as close as tyou get to instant gratification in eve.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-11-07 21:16:40 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
From I've read you would have infinitely more fun by faction war and living in low sec. Another thing to consider would be lookinginto RvB. It is as close as tyou get to instant gratification in eve.


This.

If you like small ship PvP and/or small group PvP, give low-sec / faction warfare / RvB a chance.

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#17 - 2013-11-08 00:36:12 UTC
You might look at Brave Newbies Inc. I'm not sure if they meet your time zone, but they have a reputation for fighting ridiculous odds and plex tanking.

ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-11-08 06:40:26 UTC
wow so many replies
Dkeh Weis wrote:
People hangout in the New Citizens forum because they ENJOY helping people!

well and i as a newbie enjoy the helps and tips
J'Poll wrote:
Ooh that is only here in the New Citizen forum.

Go down to General Discussion and you will see not everybody is on the forums to help.


Oh, and about the fun is in Null-sec:

That depends on the player.

Every single player in EVE has it's own way of having fun. So where and how you are having fun depends on the player.
I've been in null-sec for a while in the past, although I liked it, in the end I didn't have as much fun as I now have with what I'm doing.

Null-sec, specially SOV is more about meta gaming, bloated egos of leaders, big wars, CTA (Call to Arms - mandatory PvP) etc etc.

yea about the general discussion,im sure when ppl get anough fire power,they want to troll/flame/get rude
to make the end game intresting at least for themselfs,when thats what i would do atleast,not that its a good thing,its a FUN thing to do in the end game
oh and i know im gonna love the meta gaming,massive battles are exacly my type of game play,its like even as a little tiny member u and others like u can change ALOT in a massive scale battle

Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
Honestly, I think you're asking for trouble with the implants. Sooner or later you're going to get popped and the loss is not something that can be easily absorbed by most newbees. Besides you dont really need them. I've never had attribute implants as there is simply no need to rush the skill gain. As for being in null -- the truth is, that there are many many carebears and folk in null who only know how to pvp by blob. You do not need any particular skill set to join them, just a corp that is willing to accept a newbee. On the otherhand, if you want to solo roam against the folk living in null, then yea your skills will matter, but even more so, will be your ability as a player to fly your ship.

nop im not asking for implants,and i KNOW im gonna get poded,and die and lose implants ALOT,and like i said i dont care about isk,those implants worth 20euro,its like burning that 20euro and have fun,i dont mind that as long as i have fun
i joined this game after watching some massive scales battles in youtube,and i cant wait to be a part of it someday and have the fun im looking for in this "game",i play games to enjoy,to have fun,money is not an issue
oh and solo isnt my kinda gameplay,if i wanted to play solo,i would have played simcity
and i know i could join a corp that can get me into pvp battles but in small scales i assume,those large corps like top 20-30 in this list http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances
wont recruit a newbie,(again,i assume),cus i wouldnt,i would like to join one of them but i guess thats not gonna happend untill i can bring something to the table,well im new i cant do that
but thank you for the tips XD

Thomas Builder wrote:
First, I'd ignore those +5s for now, especially if you want to move to null-sec. It takes about 10 months of training with +5s to regain the time spend learning Cybernetics 5. And once you move to null-sec, you will lose your pod quite often, so you will fly with cheaper implants.
Stick with +3s or maybe +4s for now.

Second, I suggest you join one of Agony's PvP classes, as it will teach you the basic of fleet combat. (And you'll see that with a great fleet leader, even newbies in T1 frigates can be quite dangerous.) There is a class tomorrow, but it's already full, the next one will probably be in a month or so. http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/forum/2-enrollment/

And third, you don't need millions of SP to be useful in null. Many corps require a minimum of skill points, but that's more to deter spies. (Creating a trow-away spy alt is cheap, but it takes a much larger commitment to spend three months just to create a spy toon.) To get into a corp, it's usually more important that you work on your reputation, than on your skill points. So go out, get to know people, make friends and find a corp that fits with your play style.

Of course, if you want to be successful solo in null, then even 6 months might not be enough. It takes a long time to master solo combat, and for a long time pretty much everyone you encounter will either be better than you ... or not be solo. And without a scout, you'll run into a lot of gate camps.

yes your right
im using that implant wich gives me +3 for the first 35 days of the game and +4implants on all the slots so 15 days in 10month is alot for some one whos rushing to go to null
and yes actually i did some research about the alliances in game,and found this
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/28/4565558/eve-online-biggest-space-battle-in-history
there is a CFC alliance and TEST and these are the biggest alliance in the game,so i figured i better start from there to find friends and gain some reputation and get where i want to be some day ,what do you guys think about that ?
CFC or TEST? which one do you think is better for me to join?
ak3ent
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-11-08 06:42:24 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
From I've read you would have infinitely more fun by faction war and living in low sec. Another thing to consider would be lookinginto RvB. It is as close as tyou get to instant gratification in eve.

actually i read about RVB a day ago,its says they are killing each other,RED corp vs BLUE corp
to be honest ,i wouldnt enjoy something like that,
well who am i kidding ,im not gonna lie to you,its an online game,i can do what ever i want,when ever i want,
i want to make my opponent cry,i wont do that in RL,but i CAN do that in a GAME,i want to do something i cant,and i wont in RL
and please no judging,dont we all play games to fill a void?well this is my void and i want it filled ,oh and im paying for it lol
its like an evil side of me which is hungry,he want to see some one ask for forgivness then i tell him that his forgiven then i punish him any way,
i know ppl(corps in this case) wont rely on the kinds of me,but what can i say,thats the only reason im playing online games
im just beign honest
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-11-08 07:11:29 UTC
ak3ent wrote:
wow so many replies
Dkeh Weis wrote:
People hangout in the New Citizens forum because they ENJOY helping people!

well and i as a newbie enjoy the helps and tips
J'Poll wrote:
Ooh that is only here in the New Citizen forum.

Go down to General Discussion and you will see not everybody is on the forums to help.


Oh, and about the fun is in Null-sec:

That depends on the player.

Every single player in EVE has it's own way of having fun. So where and how you are having fun depends on the player.
I've been in null-sec for a while in the past, although I liked it, in the end I didn't have as much fun as I now have with what I'm doing.

Null-sec, specially SOV is more about meta gaming, bloated egos of leaders, big wars, CTA (Call to Arms - mandatory PvP) etc etc.

yea about the general discussion,im sure when ppl get anough fire power,they want to troll/flame/get rude
to make the end game intresting at least for themselfs,when thats what i would do atleast,not that its a good thing,its a FUN thing to do in the end game
oh and i know im gonna love the meta gaming,massive battles are exacly my type of game play,its like even as a little tiny member u and others like u can change ALOT in a massive scale battle

Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
Honestly, I think you're asking for trouble with the implants. Sooner or later you're going to get popped and the loss is not something that can be easily absorbed by most newbees. Besides you dont really need them. I've never had attribute implants as there is simply no need to rush the skill gain. As for being in null -- the truth is, that there are many many carebears and folk in null who only know how to pvp by blob. You do not need any particular skill set to join them, just a corp that is willing to accept a newbee. On the otherhand, if you want to solo roam against the folk living in null, then yea your skills will matter, but even more so, will be your ability as a player to fly your ship.

nop im not asking for implants,and i KNOW im gonna get poded,and die and lose implants ALOT,and like i said i dont care about isk,those implants worth 20euro,its like burning that 20euro and have fun,i dont mind that as long as i have fun
i joined this game after watching some massive scales battles in youtube,and i cant wait to be a part of it someday and have the fun im looking for in this "game",i play games to enjoy,to have fun,money is not an issue
oh and solo isnt my kinda gameplay,if i wanted to play solo,i would have played simcity
and i know i could join a corp that can get me into pvp battles but in small scales i assume,those large corps like top 20-30 in this list http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances
wont recruit a newbie,(again,i assume),cus i wouldnt,i would like to join one of them but i guess thats not gonna happend untill i can bring something to the table,well im new i cant do that
but thank you for the tips XD

Thomas Builder wrote:
First, I'd ignore those +5s for now, especially if you want to move to null-sec. It takes about 10 months of training with +5s to regain the time spend learning Cybernetics 5. And once you move to null-sec, you will lose your pod quite often, so you will fly with cheaper implants.
Stick with +3s or maybe +4s for now.

Second, I suggest you join one of Agony's PvP classes, as it will teach you the basic of fleet combat. (And you'll see that with a great fleet leader, even newbies in T1 frigates can be quite dangerous.) There is a class tomorrow, but it's already full, the next one will probably be in a month or so. http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/forum/2-enrollment/

And third, you don't need millions of SP to be useful in null. Many corps require a minimum of skill points, but that's more to deter spies. (Creating a trow-away spy alt is cheap, but it takes a much larger commitment to spend three months just to create a spy toon.) To get into a corp, it's usually more important that you work on your reputation, than on your skill points. So go out, get to know people, make friends and find a corp that fits with your play style.

Of course, if you want to be successful solo in null, then even 6 months might not be enough. It takes a long time to master solo combat, and for a long time pretty much everyone you encounter will either be better than you ... or not be solo. And without a scout, you'll run into a lot of gate camps.

yes your right
im using that implant wich gives me +3 for the first 35 days of the game and +4implants on all the slots so 15 days in 10month is alot for some one whos rushing to go to null
and yes actually i did some research about the alliances in game,and found this
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/28/4565558/eve-online-biggest-space-battle-in-history
there is a CFC alliance and TEST and these are the biggest alliance in the game,so i figured i better start from there to find friends and gain some reputation and get where i want to be some day ,what do you guys think about that ?
CFC or TEST? which one do you think is better for me to join?


Bigger =/= always better.

Same counts for alliances. Just because they are big doesnt mean they are the best. Join a corp/allaince because they are a good fit for you, not because they are in the top 10.

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