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I think I'm done and I've played less than a month.

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2013-11-06 17:49:12 UTC
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That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

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Pennywise le'Fluffer
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2013-11-06 17:51:39 UTC
I've been in game 3 months. This character does nothing but station trade (I refuse to mine and mission running is ******* boring). I seeded my trade account with PLEX. After the first month in game I typoed a buy order and ****** myself out of the whole first months worth of profits (more than 400 mil) and got a ****** email from the guy who got the stack of 42 mil on 4.2 mil items saying "he'd like to do more business" with me... I lost another 100 mil to a typo and got fatalistic with the SCL tournament betting and losing 400 mil and then winning it back.

I also got scammed by Somer Blink for 50 mil and lost another about 150 mil after I got greedy with the "Free Frigate" games in local in a trade hub (I won something like 2 dozen but of course that's still a huge red balance) where the object is to get you to click then hit enter 2x fast without fulling reading the contract so the 7.7k frigate becomes 77.7 mil.

I put the remaining money back on my PvP main who does nothing with the market where it's reasonably safe leaving myself only 150 mil to start back up again. Here it is about month and a half later, and I have over a billion in assets in my hangar, another 1.5 billion in escrow + sell orders and a 1.6 bil wallet.

The moral of the story is learn, and persist. EVE has no hand holding. FW PvP once TEST joined the squids, and I'm actually allowed in fleets because of my corp tag instead of everyone assuming I'm a spy, is the most fun I've had in game.

PS, FROGS 4 LIFE!!
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-11-06 17:56:56 UTC
At OP.

3 things:

1. You fell for the scam cause you were greedy. Nothing more or less, its the greedy that fall for scams. You could have asked around before buying.

2. You knew that scamming was allowed and yet whined about reimbursement. No **** you get called a noob etc.

3. Likeminded groups and years of MMO experience and it never ever came to you to find a proper corp.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-11-06 17:57:06 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
]Oh yeah, I remember that one guy, posting in Local something about "I'm quitting, whoever is firrst in the station can have my stuff fo free" etc.

Nobody replied. really nobody. 100 people in the system and everybody ignored him until he asked why nobody replies. Then somebody said something along the lines "I'm trying to figure out how you want to scam that guy who gets to the station".

Was hilarious. ^_^

I had a situation like this on christmas eve last year. Ended up getting 1.4bil and a bhaal for free. Not everything is a scam, go figure.

Dodixie > Hek

Herr Kutz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2013-11-06 17:57:57 UTC
Can all the douche-bags bitching at the OP please step off.

If all is true, he's a new player. Please explain where he would've found out (without the benefit of a corp and with the newbie help channel doing nothing but slating him) that BPCs don't sell on the market?

For those who've offered some advice (not "GTFO noob"), gj for trying to help keep this game alive.


My piece of advice is for the OP to join Eve University. It's the ideal place to learn the basics and their channels are ful of people who'll never leave, but actually know things about eve... at least on a basic level and in many cases are very good at the item they specialise in.


So give the guy a break and make some useful suggestions - like explaining how scams work, what sort of scams are about or at least suggesting places that he can learn.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#66 - 2013-11-06 18:06:05 UTC
Its not even clear from your OP weather you were scammed or not. You very clearly got excited by the prospect of profit, and took a risk with your wallet on something you poorly understood. Maybe you were scammed,So what? you still have your character, your gametime, you're smarter than you were before. You found something you enjoyed doing in FW. You lost 350m isk, but really, that's the least valuable of your possessions in EVE. Keep searching for a good FW corp. They are out there. Once you get one, they'll keep you in pvp frigs and help you get on your feet again. An enthusiastic rookie capable of taking initiative and following instructions is actually a valuable asset, providing ships for one is pretty standard really.

I've had losses. Bad ones. Most I chalk up to my own stupidity. You feel like you want to just get away from the game for a bit. Give it a day or two, then suck it up, and keep having fun. In another month this will just be a distant memory from your noob days. And everyone has those stories of getting scammed or being dumb. Its just part of the journey.

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Never forget.

KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-11-06 18:06:26 UTC
Only fly what you can afford to lose.
Only buy what you can afford to lose. Blink

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Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#68 - 2013-11-06 18:08:05 UTC
Pennywise le'Fluffer wrote:
I've been in game 3 months. This character does nothing but station trade (I refuse to mine and mission running is ******* boring). I seeded my trade account with PLEX. After the first month in game I typoed a buy order and ****** myself out of the whole first months worth of profits (more than 400 mil) and got a ****** email from the guy who got the stack of 42 mil on 4.2 mil items saying "he'd like to do more business" with me... I lost another 100 mil to a typo and got fatalistic with the SCL tournament betting and losing 400 mil and then winning it back.

I also got scammed by Somer Blink for 50 mil and lost another about 150 mil after I got greedy with the "Free Frigate" games in local in a trade hub (I won something like 2 dozen but of course that's still a huge red balance) where the object is to get you to click then hit enter 2x fast without fulling reading the contract so the 7.7k frigate becomes 77.7 mil.

I put the remaining money back on my PvP main who does nothing with the market where it's reasonably safe leaving myself only 150 mil to start back up again. Here it is about month and a half later, and I have over a billion in assets in my hangar, another 1.5 billion in escrow + sell orders and a 1.6 bil wallet.

The moral of the story is learn, and persist. EVE has no hand holding. FW PvP once TEST joined the squids, and I'm actually allowed in fleets because of my corp tag instead of everyone assuming I'm a spy, is the most fun I've had in game.

PS, FROGS 4 LIFE!!



Share the markettrade bot please.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-11-06 18:08:52 UTC
Herr Kutz wrote:
Can all the douche-bags bitching at the OP please step off.

If all is true, he's a new player. Please explain where he would've found out (without the benefit of a corp and with the newbie help channel doing nothing but slating him) that BPCs don't sell on the market?

For those who've offered some advice (not "GTFO noob"), gj for trying to help keep this game alive.


My piece of advice is for the OP to join Eve University. It's the ideal place to learn the basics and their channels are ful of people who'll never leave, but actually know things about eve... at least on a basic level and in many cases are very good at the item they specialise in.


So give the guy a break and make some useful suggestions - like explaining how scams work, what sort of scams are about or at least suggesting places that he can learn.


I know that it is documented somewhere that BPC can only be contracted as that is how I found out. So he just didnt do his research.

As for buying a Raven BPC that was named after the faction one....he didnt really tripple check everything.

And the first and formost error was reading Jita local.

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Tash Murka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2013-11-06 18:16:57 UTC
Did your parents not teach you 1 of the basic rules of life?

When somthing is too good to be true. It probably is.

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Ryhss
#71 - 2013-11-06 18:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryhss
I hate to say it OP, but this was your fault for not knowing the difference of original and copy.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2013-11-06 18:21:20 UTC
Andski wrote:
Your greed and desire to screw another player instead got you screwed, but you're ablooblooblooing over getting scammed?

lol


I'm all for scams, but posts like this are ridiculous. The OP was new to the game and apparently missed the "everything in eve is a scam" memo, have a little more empathy. (And yes I realize this is a troll post, but it just isn't funny, there is no in game way for a new player to distinguish scams like this from legit sales other than doing significant market research before every sale).

To the OP: Part of the draw of eve for a lot of people is the fact that no one is trustworthy. If that is an issue it probably isn't the game for you. If you do decide to come back, I hope you can learn to better protect your assets from people both in and out of combat.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#73 - 2013-11-06 18:26:39 UTC
I had the same feeling when i started, I never disliked people so much like in this game, it was impressive how much i hated all of them because they just liked to punsh down on the new, its an insane amount of douchebags who just are unable to achive anything in life and endup in eve beeing smartass douchebags

after I realized this, I just set course to VFK, the center of this plague ... and since then I gank their ****** ships and miners, make them pay until they quit
Pennywise le'Fluffer
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-11-06 18:34:39 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
Pennywise le'Fluffer wrote:
I've been in game 3 months. This character does nothing but station trade (I refuse to mine and mission running is ******* boring). I seeded my trade account with PLEX. After the first month in game I typoed a buy order and ****** myself out of the whole first months worth of profits (more than 400 mil) and got a ****** email from the guy who got the stack of 42 mil on 4.2 mil items saying "he'd like to do more business" with me... I lost another 100 mil to a typo and got fatalistic with the SCL tournament betting and losing 400 mil and then winning it back.

I also got scammed by Somer Blink for 50 mil and lost another about 150 mil after I got greedy with the "Free Frigate" games in local in a trade hub (I won something like 2 dozen but of course that's still a huge red balance) where the object is to get you to click then hit enter 2x fast without fulling reading the contract so the 7.7k frigate becomes 77.7 mil.

I put the remaining money back on my PvP main who does nothing with the market where it's reasonably safe leaving myself only 150 mil to start back up again. Here it is about month and a half later, and I have over a billion in assets in my hangar, another 1.5 billion in escrow + sell orders and a 1.6 bil wallet.

The moral of the story is learn, and persist. EVE has no hand holding. FW PvP once TEST joined the squids, and I'm actually allowed in fleets because of my corp tag instead of everyone assuming I'm a spy, is the most fun I've had in game.

PS, FROGS 4 LIFE!!



Share the markettrade bot please.


**** bots. I do it when I'm bored at work then I get paid to play =)
Tandros Kreel
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2013-11-06 18:34:54 UTC
Zaryn Nyruc wrote:
TL:DR version: I didnt fully check all of the information on the blueprint being sold, or research whether blueprint copies could be put on the market, and lost isk as a result.



Did I get that right, squid?
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#76 - 2013-11-06 18:39:51 UTC
every time i log into eve, i'm reminded of that poster that hangs on mulder's wall. you know, the one that reads "trust no one". welcome to eve.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#77 - 2013-11-06 18:48:13 UTC  |  Edited by: KIller Wabbit
Funny, but of course not unusual, that this came up - happens every hour on the hour.

It hit me the other day that the NPE covers every aspect of EVE except bubbles (unless they've added it) and scamming.
Perhaps a bit more work on the tutorials CCP.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#78 - 2013-11-06 19:03:50 UTC
Rroff wrote:
[quote=Seven Koskanaiken]
...

I do think these days theres a bit too much preying on the newer weak players though to the possibly detriment of the game - an aquaintance of mine - a new player - had his retriever ganked 3 times in a row within an hour by catalyst alts way to new to the game to pickup on how to deal with that sort of thing and even with my advice and giving him a load of stuff to get up and running again he was suicide ganked a day later - out of frustration he bought a plex to buy new stuff to play with as he had no real income stream at that point and again despite my advice not to decided to undock with it - can pretty much guess the rest. Needless to say he quit after that and won't be playing again.


And my dad thought I was the most bull headed person on the planet. RollBig smile

Sounds like he had the best of all worlds in EVE, advice and monetary support from an experienced friend. I did the same thing you did, but for a random person in a mining system under very similar circumstances. Cooled him down, gave advice, etc. He's been my best EVE online friend from half way around the world for years now.

Maybe once he cools off and realizes that, while he did get set upon pretty brutally at first, he loaded the final shots in the chambers himself and should give EVE another spin now that the rose colored glasses have been smashed off him.

Taal Khurin
Acorn Harvesting
#79 - 2013-11-06 19:16:39 UTC
If you build that ship (or get a trusted friend to build it for you) you can make a little profit still.. It doesn't really seem like a scam just you misread the item.

Helios Aquiness
Perkone
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-11-06 19:19:17 UTC
I agree about your conclusion that this game is amazing, but the player base is terrible. I dont play so much any more, mostly because I didnt read the subtext in the EvE tag line: Do whatever you want.....(as long as other players let you)
Carebear? Im a brony, motherf***er.