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So whats your excuse this time CCP?

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2013-11-06 06:29:00 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Sladislov wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:


There is a simple solution to it: You dont have to bring every person you know to every fight, and yet you choose to do this EVERY SINGLE FIGHT EVER.

Same result, and yet you continue, then complain about it.

Seems legit spacemonkey, time to send waffles back to your space


So the solution to not breaking the node is not bring people.

Yes this is an excellent solution, lets just go with a few dudes and if it isnt working out just call it a day.


Live together, die together.


This post is superlegit, because Marlona posted it.
Not even sarcasm. Marlona is awesome. Let us know if you want to host another anniversary event, this coming EVE birthday...

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Eligos Quemada
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#82 - 2013-11-06 06:29:30 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Lol seeing the biggest supercapital power in game smugging around about how the node crashed and saved their titan'n'caps
:priceless:


If the node hadn't crashed there were 200 more carriers cynoing in to rep the titan bro sorry :(
Dirk Action
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-11-06 06:29:37 UTC
lunnol Aideron wrote:

No matter what side we may or may not be on we all can agree that CCP needs to fix this. In the long run this needs to be fixed. The sooner CCP starts to invest time and money into it the better off Eve online as a whole will be. Then we can have more engagements where the largest ships in the game do battle.


I'm still not exactly sure what you expect when you dogpile 2000 people onto 1 grid with current hardware. Sure, if they the game more optimized then the 2000 people from today would have had a better time, but you're naive if you think that with better hardware the number of participants in a fight will stay the same. The better the hardware or optimization, the more people will pile into a system.

Basically I'm telling you to shut the hell up because in the reverse situation you would be thanking whatever dumb God you pray to for saving whatever dumb fleet you had stuck.
batowarrior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#84 - 2013-11-06 06:30:31 UTC
Great stuff, gfs all.

Please keep the laughs coming.
Dirk Action
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#85 - 2013-11-06 06:30:36 UTC
you're salty you missed out on a titan kill. we get it. no need to kick and scream on the floor about it, it simply makes you look even more foolish.

c u on teh battelfeild o7
Dirk Action
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-11-06 06:31:47 UTC
Addrake wrote:
Dirk Action wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:


You can GF all you want. But if that node hadn't crashed you wouldn't be saying GF right now. Youd be trying to figure out how your gonna defend your space against all those angry russians without your capital superiority.


You realize we didn't commit anything that can't easily be replaced, right?


Psst, neither did we :)


I hope so m8 I can't wait to see more dead dreadnoughts cu on teh blattlfeldo7
Rattman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-11-06 06:34:39 UTC
the blame lays with these super coalitions. people gravitate towards these super alliances /coallitions. To defend yourself you have to have a bigger coalition with more pilots.

its a silly arms race. No matter what CCP does to make the servers better just means more people will turn up and nothing will really change
lunnol Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2013-11-06 06:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: lunnol Aideron
Dirk Action wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:

No matter what side we may or may not be on we all can agree that CCP needs to fix this. In the long run this needs to be fixed. The sooner CCP starts to invest time and money into it the better off Eve online as a whole will be. Then we can have more engagements where the largest ships in the game do battle.


I'm still not exactly sure what you expect when you dogpile 2000 people onto 1 grid with current hardware. Sure, if they the game more optimized then the 2000 people from today would have had a better time, but you're naive if you think that with better hardware the number of participants in a fight will stay the same. The better the hardware or optimization, the more people will pile into a system.

Basically I'm telling you to shut the hell up because in the reverse situation you would be thanking whatever dumb God you pray to for saving whatever dumb fleet you had stuck.



No actually i'd still be bitching at CCP for the crash. I'd be happy my colations **** got out but i'd still be pissed about the crash. The Tidi system just plain doesn't work right. Its great for the 400 to 800 man fights the servers can handle that. But the major 2000 man fights it just can't keep up.

CCP needs to start to look into a better system otherwise its only gonna get worse. They boast about their Tidi system yet it just doesn't work right. If you don't continually improve a system then eventually it will become so outdated that any upgrades will prove to be even more costly. When you hurry along an upgrade at a later date you stand the chance of something going wrong in the development so better they start working on something new now.

The current system is just no longer feasible.

Troll me all you want people. Some of you know I am bringing up some valid points.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2013-11-06 06:35:53 UTC
so, essentially, OP sez: "Wah! It's all See-See-Pee's fault we didn't kill a shiny!", and we're supposed to feel sorry for him?

Damn.... maybe next time SMERG launches a Venture roam and the FacWar dills are all WC-Stabbed and evade us, I should come on here and QQ about all the failfit frigs that got away from us... I can earn back the pro-points we lost out on.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Travis Uchonela
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#90 - 2013-11-06 06:38:40 UTC
lunnol Aideron wrote:
Dirk Action wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:

No matter what side we may or may not be on we all can agree that CCP needs to fix this. In the long run this needs to be fixed. The sooner CCP starts to invest time and money into it the better off Eve online as a whole will be. Then we can have more engagements where the largest ships in the game do battle.


I'm still not exactly sure what you expect when you dogpile 2000 people onto 1 grid with current hardware. Sure, if they the game more optimized then the 2000 people from today would have had a better time, but you're naive if you think that with better hardware the number of participants in a fight will stay the same. The better the hardware or optimization, the more people will pile into a system.

Basically I'm telling you to shut the hell up because in the reverse situation you would be thanking whatever dumb God you pray to for saving whatever dumb fleet you had stuck.



No actually i'd still be bitching at CCP for the crash. I'd be happy my colations **** got out but i'd still be pissed about the crash. The Tidi system just plain doesn't work right. Its great for the 400 to 800 man fights the servers can handle that. But the major 2000 man fights it just can't keep up.

CCP needs to start to look into a better system otherwise its only gonna get worse. They boast about their Tidi system yet it just doesn't work right. If you don't continually improve a system then eventually it will become so outdated that any upgrades will prove to be even more costly. When you hurry along an upgrade at a later date you stand the chance of something going wrong in the development so better they start working on something new now.

The current system is just no longer feasible.

Troll me all you want people. Some of you know I am bringing up some valid points.


Remember when goon thought they were going to get to kill a Titan and then after 6 hours of lag PL just node tanked?

It 0wned.
SunburnedFrog
Perkone
Caldari State
#91 - 2013-11-06 06:48:38 UTC
The fact of the matter is you had 6 hours to kill it... you didnt...
Dirk Action
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-11-06 06:53:59 UTC
lunnol Aideron wrote:


CCP needs to start to look into a better system otherwise its only gonna get worse. They boast about their Tidi system yet it just doesn't work right.


I'm sure they're open to suggestions, O Wise Pubbie (That Doesn't Actually Know A Damn Thing)
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#93 - 2013-11-06 06:54:59 UTC
If its not the highsec peeps complaining its members of the CFC Shocked
Sladislov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#94 - 2013-11-06 06:57:07 UTC
Yeah like i said in the beginning of the thread, n3 will be rejoicing/smugging at their get out of jail free card while the rest will be complaining.

i wish i could be smug about node restarts :(

       Sladislov Director of Silly semantics       Broksi Kurth    xXxBlack LegionxXx
Ryan526
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2013-11-06 06:57:14 UTC
Mr Blue wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:
All these massive fights in 10% tidi or shall I say .1% tidi prove is that CCP needs to find a better method of handling these 1500 man fights. Even on reinforced nodes they still crash. This fight tonight/today proved again that the current system is no longer a viable solution.

how about you bring proper damage ships next time so you doesnt need those 1000-2000 pilots in celestis and bombers to try to accually kill something.

The node crashing was your own doing when you brought/tryed to bring 3-4 250 man fleets into a 1700 local and then went to try to bump stuff(which creates massive desync/lag)



Solely our own fault? I guess the close to 2,000 sentry drones N3/PL left on field had nothing to do with the strain on the servers. Carriers don't help it.....
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#96 - 2013-11-06 06:57:15 UTC
OP, I'd suggest you HTFU but that would be useless seeing as you are in the CFC, so I'll just ask .....




.... can I have your stuffP
Fictional Hero
Doomheim
#97 - 2013-11-06 06:57:47 UTC
Raptor217 wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:
Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.



You see, when you dogpile people into system it stresses out the servers. When you do this for 9 hours, the servers go down. Sorry you couldn't kill the titan in the allotted time, better luck next time.


Or when you get PL and all of their brave pets to deploy 2k sentry drones it causes the servers to die. Nerf Drone Assist and these nodes would live. But we all know that wont happen because PL/Pets need Drone Assist to win fights.
Fictional Hero
Doomheim
#98 - 2013-11-06 06:59:53 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:
If CCP doesn't invest the time and money into finding a solution for this then eventually the game will become unplayable.

CCP adding player owned poco's in high sec is only continuing with their current streak of encouraging more fleet fights. The problem with that is if they don't come up with a better solution to deal with all the lag and tidi then people will eventually become discouraged from playing.

There is always gonna be the hard core players with every game but eventually people will move onto more efficiently run games. CCP has held a monopoly on the real time internet spaceship games for a long time. But it won't be that way forever if they don't keep up with the times.

I honestly can't wait for rubicon to come out. All the wonderful tidi that the high sec carebears are gonna expierence because of fleets shooting poco's in high sec is gonna cause so much headaches for CCP. I will just make popcorn and read the threads and laugh.


There is a simple solution to it: You dont have to bring every person you know to every fight, and yet you choose to do this EVERY SINGLE FIGHT EVER.

Same result, and yet you continue, then complain about it.

Seems legit spacemonkey, time to send waffles back to your space


Considering it was Nullis system and Solar and Friends are attacking Nulli/N3 assets, not PLs, Maybe you should take your own advise and stay out of it.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#99 - 2013-11-06 07:00:13 UTC
Fictional Hero wrote:
Raptor217 wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:
Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.



You see, when you dogpile people into system it stresses out the servers. When you do this for 9 hours, the servers go down. Sorry you couldn't kill the titan in the allotted time, better luck next time.


Or when you get PL and all of their brave pets to deploy 2k sentry drones it causes the servers to die. Nerf Drone Assist and these nodes would live. But we all know that wont happen because PL/Pets need Drone Assist to win fights.


You can nerf drone assist and we'll still launch drones bro, sorry, we'll just follow primaries as per the usual

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Eligos Quemada
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#100 - 2013-11-06 07:03:02 UTC
Fictional Hero wrote:
Raptor217 wrote:
lunnol Aideron wrote:
Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.



You see, when you dogpile people into system it stresses out the servers. When you do this for 9 hours, the servers go down. Sorry you couldn't kill the titan in the allotted time, better luck next time.


Or when you get PL and all of their brave pets to deploy 2k sentry drones it causes the servers to die. Nerf Drone Assist and these nodes would live. But we all know that wont happen because PL/Pets need Drone Assist to win fights.


cfc domis completely without fault here