EVE General Discussion

After an hour of searching forums and blogs about the noisy fans and hot video cards since Incarna's incarnation, I tooled around with every setting one-by-one concerning graphics on the menu. The only thing that put the fans on the GPU at a tolerable db was to change the Present Interval to default. Anything lower would seem to drag.

I love how fast the frame rates are when using the mouse to change views in station (spinning) or in space during combat or mining ops. But default is certainly tolerable and totally changed the noise and temp within about 30 seconds of changing the setting (it took about a minute for the fan noise to level out to about 40%.

I run the game at 1900x1200 on each monitor running two clients or 3840x1200 using EVEMover across both monitors using a single client. It's pain to get set up, but it works great and worth the trouble. Just glad to be playing that way in a quieter room!

So here's my care rig spec - minus the fluff - for reference:

Asus P6T Deluxe V2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Core i7 920 (OC @ 3.3GHz)

12GB Corsair XMS3 @ 1600MHz

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 2x SLI

120GB SSD RAID 0

Corsair Graphite Series 600T Case

Please ping back and tell me the results. Better yet, if you have another solution!!

called a custom fan profile or better cooling I have a 470... she never gets lould... and i have my fan profile set to keep it cooler than stock.

I mean of course caping the FPS is gona lower the GPU usage so heat....

stop buying silicon from companies that have been known to have severe TDP management issues for more than a decade.

I find it interesting that one out of maybe 4 or 5 replies in these forums are even useful. Go troll the Beiber forums where you belong... buncha nubbz!!

Thanks at least for intelligent reply HE.

The kids out there need to understand that just because "their" junk works OK in a given situation, doesn't mean they have the solution to everything. Especially by saying stupid things like "get an air conditioner in the room". I wish I were 16 again... or 25 for that matter...

Other things you can try is setting the CPU affinity of exefile.exe in your taskmangar
to one cpu only ... best to use CPU 0, because in a hyperthreaded system setting it
to one of the virtual CPUs gives a bad result. ^^

EvE isn't really good at multithreading (read: none) and i've noticed an actual
slowdown when NOT setting the affinity ... windows task management has it's issues here.

So this puts a bit less strain on your CPU and results in a slightly better performance,
but i don't know if you'd notice anyway.

btw ... your "default" sounds like you have vsync activated in your gfx settings,
i believe the same result can be achieved by setting the interval to one ?
Just saying, in case something changes one day.

What you ALSO can do is, in your gfx settings, use custom settings and override the application ones ...
and then set them to specific needs, like a specific low-cost-AA or something.
At your resolution, for example, i believe 4x is already sufficient, maybe even 2x ... still much less work to do.

Please note that you have to have AA enabled in your escape menu in EvE,
even when you override application settings in your gfx driver,
else it won't work at all or give you borked results.

Hope it helps. Turning down AA would be my number one option,
considering your resolution.

Dump Nvidia, Mkay? Regardless of advertising, their cards - still crap.

Or keep on and play on Xbox and playstation - they have 'marvelous' video chips. Next gen tertris handheld.

Fan issues - poor card design, bad casing, bad overall cooling. Bad drivers, motherboard conflicts. I've through that all myself. My Nvidia monster card back at the day had a useless fan, got stuffed with dust, dust burnt, fan failed, card failed and short circuited. Card design is to blame, hey but at least you have to buy new ones more often!

sweet setup, it feels like it is dedicated to gaming

as someone who has written graphic engines before... LOL

nVidia silicon is utter and complete garbage, i got sick and tired of coding around their inability to properly implement OpenGL/Direct3D in software, or various algorithms correctly in silicon. not to mention their completely inability to manage the thermal design of their cards. they've NEVER known their posterior from a hole in the ground when it came to TDP management.

ATI cards on the other hand have always had a pure horsepower advantage since the tail end of the Rage series, and have always properly managed their thermal output (with one notable exception: the HD 2xxx series, which they admitted straight out they f'ed up). Now, the reason you see nvidia cards sporting 3-5 more FPS is ATI spends this extra computing power on image quality instead of "MOAR FPS! BETTAR FPS!" on default settings.*


let's go with the highest single chip designs from the last few generations - at factory clock rates

i'm clustering them by generation - backwards from current

Radeon HD6970 - 2703 GFLOPS
Geforce GTX 580 - 1581.1 GFLOPS

Radeon HD5870 - 2720 GFLOPS (some of that processing power wasted in VLIW5 design)
Geforce GTC 480 - 1088.64 GFLOPS

Radeon HD4890 - 1360 GFLOPS (VLIW5 again)
Geforce GTX 285 - 1062.720 GFLOPS


the new Radeon HD7970 is rumored to have 4096 GFLOPS processing power, at only 190W TDP - that's 21.5 GFLOPS/watt, double the 6970's efficiency, or 4x the thermal efficiency of the GTX580


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* i would point out that past a certain point differences in FPS make less of a difference in actual eye perception (ie it's hard for the eye to really distinguish between 24 and 60 fps - it can with difficutly, beyond 60 it really cannot). if your physics engine uses FPS as it's tick rate then you can get some difference from that - because physics engines act like a Riemann sum with FPS=n. the human eye is incredibly good at picking out errors in arcs - 1 arcsecond error perception - however very few things in most games are going to trigger that perception

No offense, but ... ATI fanboy spotted. ^^

Too bad CCP codes for Nvidia. They even implement things that don't work in ATI cards.