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Cyber Bullying and New Zealand to pass new Bill

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Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#1 - 2013-11-05 04:53:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Yendaj
As always, New Zealand walks to the beat of its own drum and pushes for Parliament to pass a new law crushing cyber bullies and harrasment.

Will it work? Perhaps so at a National/local level.

How will they deal with international bullies via Social Networks and even MMO's like Eve Online?

Will this be the precedent for the rest of the Western World to create and enforce these laws across the board?

If so.... What will happen to Goons, The Mittani and other people who feel harrasment, personal insults and incitement of suicide are just plain old sandbox fun and games? No mad, no sad, no bad...............

I've copped a fair amount of personal abuse, attacks and absolute defamation and utter bullshyte from many a player in this game.. would I consider it worth having someone actually charged and put in jail over....Ugh

In some cases, absolutely not, I am fully aware of how pathetic some players are and how much attention they crave..

In a few other cases, yes... Some of the personal abuse, private emails and threats I have received, I believe those few people are quite sick and deserve to spend a few months in jail contemplating their personality disorder.

Overall..... Maybe this would be a good thing for Facebook and other social network sites.... but EvE?

Perhaps just a few tweaks here and there to what we already have is needed... but outright jail sentence if a few people get their feathers ruffled... I am not so sure.

It comes down to interpretation and some softies considering the smallest slight, their biggest affront.....

How would they monitor this kind of thing, judge it?

Is it time for CCP to tighten up their ideas on personal attacks etc on public forums? What is acceptable and what is not?

Yes I think so, before our game gets destroyed by those few people who will take it to the extreme when they get a little butthurt.

Times are changing and its definitely adapt or die time...

Discuss......

Link to Article about Law Changes in New Zealand regarding Cyber Bullies


Idea
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#2 - 2013-11-05 05:01:51 UTC


Forgot to add that poor old VegasMirage would be absolutely crushed if this sort of bill was passed where he lives

Several years in jail ???

Lol
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2013-11-05 05:05:24 UTC
The most butthurt people are always crying for a law to be made.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-11-05 05:45:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
So shooting people spaceships in a game designed to shoot people people spaceships is considered bullying.

Interesting...

People need to take things into context.... However people always fail in that regard.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#5 - 2013-11-05 06:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Yendaj
Cannibal Kane wrote:
So shooting people spaceships in a game designed to shoot people people spaceships is considered bullying.

Interesting...

People need to take things into context.... However people always fail in that regard.



You could take a leaf out of your own book with that comment.

1. This is not about shooting each other in a game aka: General gameplay
2. Personal attacks, harrasment and suicide incitement are the context of above post and the bill being passed in Parliament.
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2013-11-05 06:45:17 UTC
Yendaj wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
So shooting people spaceships in a game designed to shoot people people spaceships is considered bullying.

Interesting...

People need to take things into context.... However people always fail in that regard.


You could take a leaf out of your own book with that comment.

1. This is not about shooting each other in a game aka: General gameplay
2. Personal attacks, harrasment and suicide encitement are the context of above post and the bill being passed in Parliament.



Sounds more like government hand holding, " wah government, the Goonies killed my spaceship"

The many generation's of people didn't have laws about being bullied, and they are fine. When did people become so weak minded about everything.

You've got guns on your ship, otherwise hit the block button and ignore it, its a game grow up stop being a baby.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#7 - 2013-11-05 09:24:06 UTC
Oh, you should be careful Yendaj.
Some of your rants might be seen as personal attacks :P
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#8 - 2013-11-05 09:58:18 UTC
I'm proud to be an American!

Freedom!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Marexlovox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-11-05 10:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Marexlovox
Erotica 1 wrote:
I'm proud to be an American!

Freedom!


Me too.
Baaldor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-11-05 11:00:30 UTC
Yendaj wrote:

As always, New Zealand walks to the beat of its own drum and pushes for Parliament to pass a new law crushing cyber bullies and harrasment.



Idea



Kiwi's..where the Men are Men and the Sheep are nervous.
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-11-05 12:24:09 UTC
this is in C+P... why, exactly?
Taal Khurin
Acorn Harvesting
#12 - 2013-11-05 12:48:43 UTC
Yendaj wrote:
[quote=Cannibal Kane]
2. Personal attacks, harrasment and suicide encitement are the context of above post and the bill being passed in Parliament.


Well, that's already against the rules of EVE.
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#13 - 2013-11-05 14:21:27 UTC
Taal Khurin wrote:
Yendaj wrote:
[quote=Cannibal Kane]
2. Personal attacks, harrasment and suicide encitement are the context of above post and the bill being passed in Parliament.


Well, that's already against the rules of EVE.




Indeed, the question is, where does it become open to interpretation based on how the recipient feels they are being treated?

What some people consider harmless, others might feel is harrasment or bullying.

Hence the OP

I wrote it for an open discussion and peoples opinions on the subject as obviously peoples opinions will vary depending on their own morales :)
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#14 - 2013-11-05 14:23:32 UTC
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Oh, you should be careful Yendaj.
Some of your rants might be seen as personal attacks :P



Ditto......Blink
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#15 - 2013-11-05 14:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Yendaj
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
this is in C+P... why, exactly?



Because C+P is where some of the most extravagant personal attacks, harrasment and bullying occur Roll

Albeit cloaked in the mystery of pseudo "trolling" and "meme's"......Shocked
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#16 - 2013-11-05 14:43:27 UTC
So I take it that this thread is now about abusing New Zealanders?

An Australian ventriloquist visiting New Zealand walks into a small village and sees a local sitting on his porch patting his dog.

He figures he'll have a little fun, so he says to the Kiwi:
"G'day, mind if I talk to your dog?"
Villager: "The dog doesn't talk, you stupid Aussie."
Ventriloquist: "Hello dog, how's it going mate?"
Dog: "Yeah, doin' all right."
Kiwi: (look of extreme shock)
Ventriloquist: "Is this villager your owner?" (pointing at the villager)
Dog: "Yep"
Ventriloquist: "How does he treat you?"
Dog: "Yeah, real good. He walks me twice a day, feeds me great food
and takes me to the lake once a week to play."
Kiwi: (look of utter disbelief)
Ventriloquist: "Mind if I talk to your horse?"
Kiwi: "Uh, the horse doesn't talk either....I think."
Ventriloquist: "Hey horse, how's it going?"
Horse: "Cool"
Kiwi: (absolutely dumbfounded)
Ventriloquist: "Is this your owner?" (Pointing at the villager)
Horse: "Yep"
Ventriloquist: How does he treat you?
Horse: "Pretty good, thanks for asking. He rides me regularly, brushes me down often and
keeps me in the barn to protect me from the elements."
Kiwi: (total look of amazement)
Ventriloquist: "Mind if I talk to your sheep?"
Kiwi: (in a panic) " Don't believe a word he says, that sheep's a bloody liar.."

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Tetsel
House Amamake
#17 - 2013-11-05 15:04:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tetsel
Poor Yendaj, we are so pleased that now your sheep country protect yourself from those bad internet people !
I wonder what makes people so angry at you that they feel in need of bullying you on the intraweb... Roll

Attention Yendaj Bullyer: DO NOT step into New Zeawhatland or you will be grounded by the sheep police !
Meeeeeh

Loyal servent to Mother Amamake. @EVE_Tetsel

Another Bittervet Please Ignore
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#18 - 2013-11-05 15:16:09 UTC
Tetsel wrote:
Poor Yendaj, we are so pleased that now your sheep country protect yourself from those bad internet people !
I wonder what makes people so angry at you that they feel in need of bullying you on the intraweb... Roll

Attention Yendaj Bullyer: DO NOT step into New Zeawhatland or you will be grounded by the sheep police !
Meeeeeh



Always happy to have substantial posters like yourself put in your two cents!

I am pleased you read the OP carefully and decided to grace us with your intelligent views/opinions on how it will effect yourself and other people like you. Literate converse is always welcome in such discussions!

Big smile
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-11-05 15:30:23 UTC
I am sure of three things.

1) No matter what new Zealand does, ill still play the game however I want.

2) People need to stop crying about their feelings. I hate new age hippie wannabees. Someone hurt your feelings? Guess what, it happens.

3) ITS A GAME!! No matter what, THEY CANT ACTUALLY HURT YOU!

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Anslo
Scope Works
#20 - 2013-11-05 15:46:06 UTC
You lose ships. It happens. But when it comes to stalking or flat out verbal abuse or DOXing or some **** like that where it spills out of the game?

Yeah no, not cool brah.

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