Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think, that the Stratios is currently underpowered.

You can use every ship in eve even with level 4 skills. You don't get the best performance, but you can use it and get the job done. The Stratios on the other hand was in the opening meant for low sec combat exploration up to 6/10. With the current stats of the ship, especially the 100 mb drone bandwith, i think level 5 skills are not optional, but indispensable for this ship to finish the higher combat sites in reasonable time.

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Stratios

Role Bonus: 50% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus)
Role Bonus: +10 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers
Role Bonus: +2 Warp Strength

No speed reduction penalty from Cloaking Devices.

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
4% bonus to Armor Resists

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Slot layout: 4H, 5M, 6L; 3 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 920 PWG, 400 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1950 / 2400 / 2450
Capacitor (amount) : 1700
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 182 / .47 / 9350000 / 6.09s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 400
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 275 / 7
Sensor strength: 20
Signature radius: 150
Cargo Capacity: 550

Here is a viable Stratios fit in comparison to the Ishtar. Worse tank, 100 extra drone dps for the Ishtar (5 Wardens vs 4)

(80dps from the Stratios guns to help with nearby frigs so you don't have to break the smalls out), much more expensive.

Yes, it has the cov-ops cloak but that's the only major advantage and with mwd and a cloak on the Ishtar it can get through the camps (or back to gate at least).

Ishtar (for Guristas)

Stratios (for Guristas)

Bit underwhelming to say the least.

Apparently half-finished ship is about to be released and after initial enthusiasm is gone not many people will fly it

His sub genre of trolling is flame baiting. He's happy with the Stratios, since as a cloaky gank ship it'll be quite good. So he and others are trying to de-rail the thread into a shouting match, a sure fire way of making sure no dev will keep reading it anymore.

He is trolling, the Cruiser is really bad at the moment. Hell it even could use another 20CPU if at all.

From Eve Survival and Chruker: The most brutal neuting you'd encounter in a C3 site is from the final wave of the Forgotten Frontier Recursive Depot (Relic Site) where you have 3 Sleepless Upholder BS and 1 Awakened Upholder Cruiser neuting you and the whole wave putting out 1400dps. One C4 anom has a similar spawn with 3 Sleepless Upholders as well.

The BS neut 10gj/s @ 70km each, so 30gj/s total or 300gj every 10 seconds. Cruiser neuts 6gj/s @ 40km or 60gj every 10 seconds.
Therefore total neuting = 36gj/s or 360gj every 10 seconds.

There are also 3 webbers (2 frigs and a cruiser) so trying to out range the neuts is difficult unless you position yourself far enough before the wave spawns, or kill the webbers asap and pull range.

Overall that is pretty heavy neuting and only heavy cap recharge T3s or Battleships with a cap booster can withstand it for a long time. I used to run these sites in a Tengu and I would position myself >70km from the spawn and pick at the BS outside their neuting range which worked but took quite along time. You would have trouble doing this in any armor T3 because they lack the range to kill the BS. Armor tanked BS suffer a different problem of not being able to outspeed the the Sleepless Upholders because they orbit at 65km and will MWD @ 800m/s to get into that range. So basically your only option is to have a massive cap recharge, using a cap booster, or warping in and out which often means sacrificing alot of dps making the sites take ages to complete.

It is far more efficient to run these sites with more than 1 ship and things like RR Domis work like a charm because when one Domi is getting neuted, he can turn off all his RR equipment which gives you alot of cap to spare and your RR buddy can use his cap transfer to help you out as well.

No ship is made for PURE PVE!!! All ships that can fit weapons are also PVP ships and are balanced taking that into account.

Its not even a t2 ship, so would never be pingeonholed in a single focused usage like exploration.

Its meant to be GOOD at exploration and a very obvious choice at that. That doe snto mean it was not supposed to be use don other things.

Split weapons are lame.

Give the cruiser the 125mb bandwidth and huge bay back and drop the laser bonus. The covops cloak and probe strength are plenty for high slot bonuses.

And if people think the 5 heavy/sentries and 4 turrets is too much dps, take out the turret slots.


The frigate is pretty good, but could use a bit more grid. At 32 it would be the lowest of the pirate frigates.

I am still curious to see how the cruiser is to do a 6/10. On sisi i cant even make a version that will work in some of the easier level 4 missions. In EFT the only way i can see it working is fitting a whole pile of faction mods and forgoing any dps mods. 5th drone or sentry doesnt really help all that much with the tank.

Looks like i will only be able to use it as a can cracker, i dont see any PVE use otherwise.