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archon o'v
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-10-25 21:20:56 UTC
please add third mid slot and do something else to re compensate for the change, lets say remove one rig slot?
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#2 - 2013-10-25 21:27:15 UTC
What about no?

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Ginger Barbarella
#3 - 2013-10-25 21:39:57 UTC
What?!??!!

*looks around to see if anyone is taking this seriously*

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Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#4 - 2013-10-25 22:01:05 UTC
archon o'v wrote:
please add third mid slot and do something else to re compensate for the change, lets say remove one rig slot?


Please everyone knows you move a highslot to a mid in a Slicer. Roll
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
No Safe Word
#5 - 2013-10-25 22:08:16 UTC
Why would you even think that?
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#6 - 2013-10-26 02:54:30 UTC
Why? The slicer is good as it is, no change needed, maybe nerf it's sleep a bit is all haha
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#7 - 2013-10-26 20:51:15 UTC
Does anyone actually use the 3rd high on the slicer?

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#8 - 2013-10-26 21:31:53 UTC
The brawl slicer with a small neut is quite a silly surprise

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Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
AimogMart
#9 - 2013-10-26 22:02:59 UTC
Hell no. Slicer is perfect as it is.
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#10 - 2013-10-26 22:28:58 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
The brawl slicer with a small neut is quite a silly surprise

Brawling with two mids is indeed silly.

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2013-10-26 22:41:15 UTC
Slicer.. Meh

Retri getting three mids however i could get behind.

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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-10-26 22:53:54 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
The brawl slicer with a small neut is quite a silly surprise

Brawling with two mids is indeed silly.

Perfectly viable as long as you dedicate rigs to tracking .. tiericide has made it a little dicey against previously "easy" opponents but still very viable. Biggest problem is that so many frigs now have 3 mids and with SAAR being godlike for the scale (dps/tank ratio) if he is injected the single neut is not enough in most cases.

If it was to have a high moved to mid it would break immediately: range, damage, mobility and fight control all at once is too much for a single frig, no matter how bling it may be. Would argue that even the eventual T3 frigate should never get to pull that off.
Move the high to a low on the other hand ... allows you to augment a couple of the above 4 but never be able to pull off all with one fit.
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#13 - 2013-10-26 23:10:02 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
The brawl slicer with a small neut is quite a silly surprise

Brawling with two mids is indeed silly.

Perfectly viable as long as you dedicate rigs to tracking .. tiericide has made it a little dicey against previously "easy" opponents but still very viable. Biggest problem is that so many frigs now have 3 mids and with SAAR being godlike for the scale (dps/tank ratio) if he is injected the single neut is not enough in most cases.

If it was to have a high moved to mid it would break immediately: range, damage, mobility and fight control all at once is too much for a single frig, no matter how bling it may be. Would argue that even the eventual T3 frigate should never get to pull that off.
Move the high to a low on the other hand ... allows you to augment a couple of the above 4 but never be able to pull off all with one fit.



I think that the 3rd mid would more likely be delegated to a cap booster in most cases, especially since it's made to be a range oriented ship but I don't think it would make it overpowered in a brawl situation since all other navy frigs have room for a web (at least in my fits, maybe I shouldn't fly hookbills...) and they're all faster than it so even while webbed they should be able to dictate range a bit better, maybe not enough to make a huge difference, but most likely to the point where it's a close fight.

Also if I'm not mistaken the daredevil pulls all 4 of those off.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-10-26 23:53:49 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
Does anyone actually use the 3rd high on the slicer?


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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#15 - 2013-10-27 15:12:49 UTC
The Slicer would only benefit from getting the highslot moved to a midslot, nobody really uses the highslot in its kiting fit, but a mid could be fit with so many different options. It would definitely be an unneeded buff though, seeing as it's fine the way it is now.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-10-27 19:40:53 UTC
While I love the slicer, a 3rd mid, coming from the lows or the (empty) high would make it hugely OP.
STSxLight
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#17 - 2013-11-04 10:21:59 UTC
confirming brawler slicer is sexy as hell, another mid will make it to good Shocked

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Nym Shadowblade
Zero Gsus
#18 - 2013-11-04 10:52:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Nym Shadowblade
Anyone run with afterburner, adaptive nanos and a repairer?

Really bored with kite fit and fancy a go.

I would definitely like a third mid but would definitely make it a bit OP. Although as the amarr destroyers (and to some extent cruisers) are pretty w**k solo I wouldnt mind that much and we have no close range brawlers I wouldnt mind that much.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-11-04 17:22:10 UTC
Only if wolf gets a third mid.

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