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Skill Tree for New Players interested in PVP
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Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-10-25 12:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Malik Fett
First of all, hello everyone! This is my first post to eve forums! I am here because I have had a lot of people ask me what skills they should train for pvp. I stream a lot and many new players and potential new players seem to be coming to the stream community for answers. So I have taken it upon myself to help!

My first idea was to create a basic PVP skill tree for frigate pvp. For the sake of keeping it as trim as possible I am starting with just a gallente frigate skill tree, but hope to put one out for all the races.

I am pretty sure I have included every skill that is needed for pvp in general, but would love to get some input if I missed any. Also, and I feel this is the most important part, if anyone has any suggestions on the order of training, that would be most welcome. I think this is a really fundamental part of keeping pvp type players interested. Getting them into decent fits asap. The current skill tree takes a total of 160ish days to train depending on implants. And by the end you should be able to fly any gallente t1 frigate and fly it very well. And even by the first month or so you should be able to do some damage!

Here is the current training schedule. I will be uploading the final products to eve-files in the future.

Quote:
Cybernetics I
Cybernetics II
Cybernetics III
Repair Systems I
Drones I
Scout Drone Operation I
Capacitor Systems Operation I
Afterburner I
Biology I
Signature Analysis I
Target Management I
Hull Upgrades I
Weapon Upgrades I
Electronics Upgrades I
Motion Prediction I
Controlled Bursts I
Rapid Firing I
Sharpshooter I
Evasive Maneuvering I
Gallente Frigate I
Long Range Targeting I
Propulsion Jamming I
Capacitor Management I
Acceleration Control I
Repair Systems II
Drones II
Scout Drone Operation II
Capacitor Systems Operation II
Afterburner II
Fuel Conservation I
Biology II
Signature Analysis II
Target Management II
Hull Upgrades II
Weapon Upgrades II
Electronics Upgrades II
Motion Prediction II
Controlled Bursts II
Rapid Firing II
Sharpshooter II
Evasive Maneuvering II
Fuel Conservation II
Gallente Frigate II
Long Range Targeting II
Propulsion Jamming II
Capacitor Management II
Acceleration Control II
Mechanics III
Jury Rigging I
Armor Layering I
Jury Rigging II
Armor Layering II
Gunnery III
Repair Systems III
Drones III
Combat Drone Operation I
Combat Drone Operation II
Scout Drone Operation III
Capacitor Systems Operation III
Afterburner III
High Speed Maneuvering I
High Speed Maneuvering II
Biology III
Signature Analysis III
Target Management III
Jury Rigging III
Armor Rigging I
Astronautics Rigging I
Hybrid Weapon Rigging I
Shield Rigging I
Armor Rigging II
Astronautics Rigging II
Hybrid Weapon Rigging II
Shield Rigging II
Hull Upgrades III
Combat Drone Operation III
Weapon Upgrades III
Electronics Upgrades III
Motion Prediction III
Controlled Bursts III
Rapid Firing III
Sharpshooter III
Evasive Maneuvering III
Fuel Conservation III
Gallente Frigate III
Long Range Targeting III
Armor Layering III
Propulsion Jamming III
Capacitor Management III
Armor Rigging III
Astronautics Rigging III
Hybrid Weapon Rigging III
Shield Rigging III
Acceleration Control III
Gallente Frigate IV
Navigation IV
Spaceship Command IV
High Speed Maneuvering III
Gunnery IV
Surgical Strike I
Trajectory Analysis I
Surgical Strike II
Trajectory Analysis II
Surgical Strike III
Trajectory Analysis III
Small Hybrid Turret IV
Small Hybrid Turret V
Small Blaster Specialization I
Small Blaster Specialization II
Small Blaster Specialization III
Repair Systems IV
Drones IV
Drone Navigation I
Drone Navigation II
Drone Navigation III
Drone Navigation IV
Scout Drone Operation IV
Weapon Upgrades IV
Power Grid Management IV
Power Grid Management V
Science IV
Thermodynamics I
Thermodynamics II
Thermodynamics III
Drones V
Drone Sharpshooting I
Minmatar Drone Specialization I
Drone Interfacing I
Gallente Drone Specialization I
Drone Sharpshooting II
Minmatar Drone Specialization II
Drone Interfacing II
Gallente Drone Specialization II
Drone Sharpshooting III
Minmatar Drone Specialization III
Drone Interfacing III
Gallente Drone Specialization III
Gallente Frigate V
Weapon Upgrades V
Advanced Weapon Upgrades I
Advanced Weapon Upgrades II
Advanced Weapon Upgrades III
Hull Upgrades IV
EM Armor Compensation I
Explosive Armor Compensation I
Kinetic Armor Compensation I
Thermic Armor Compensation I
EM Armor Compensation II
Explosive Armor Compensation II
Kinetic Armor Compensation II
Thermic Armor Compensation II
EM Armor Compensation III
Explosive Armor Compensation III
Kinetic Armor Compensation III
Thermic Armor Compensation III
CPU Management IV
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation I
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation II
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation III
Mechanics IV
Mechanics V
Nanite Operation I
Nanite Operation II
Nanite Operation III
Nanite Interfacing I
Nanite Interfacing II
Nanite Interfacing III
Combat Drone Operation IV
Electronics Upgrades IV
Capacitor Systems Operation IV
Afterburner IV
Signature Analysis IV
Target Management IV
Controlled Bursts IV
Motion Prediction IV
Rapid Firing IV
Sharpshooter IV
Evasive Maneuvering IV
Fuel Conservation IV
Jury Rigging IV
Long Range Targeting IV
Capacitor Management IV
Cybernetics IV
Armor Rigging IV
Astronautics Rigging IV
Hybrid Weapon Rigging IV
Shield Rigging IV
Acceleration Control IV
Surgical Strike IV
Trajectory Analysis IV
High Speed Maneuvering IV
Thermodynamics IV
Small Blaster Specialization IV
Nanite Interfacing IV
Drone Sharpshooting IV
Scout Drone Operation V
Drone Interfacing IV
Minmatar Drone Specialization IV
Gallente Drone Specialization IV
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation IV
Advanced Weapon Upgrades IV


Thanks,
-malik

http://www.twitch.tv/malik_fett
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-25 12:08:17 UTC
Also, really quick, I want to get this in front of as many new players as possible so do you think I should post this in the New Citizens section?

Cheers!

-Malik
Gorski Car
#3 - 2013-10-25 12:20:04 UTC
just go straight for caldari cruiser V and Recon V

Collect this post
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-10-25 12:34:19 UTC
changing skill tree now. thx for the OP input gorski!
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#5 - 2013-10-25 12:54:57 UTC
Quite a nice thing for sure!

Besides that, it would be highly favorable if there was a missile skillplan aswell, especially now with missiles being - on the frigside - an amazing weapon system that, once light missile V is trained, translates directly into even higher end ships like caracal, cerb and tengu, fleet scythe and bellicose.

While turrets used to be the go-to-pvp-platform, I'd say that especially as a newbro, you'd have as much fun going for light missiles (and maybe even rockets) and getting the support skills up to III-IV, especially as missiles translate to roughly equal training time until you do *something*.
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-10-25 13:20:04 UTC
Yes I plan to make one for each race. Caldari will be shield/missiles for sure :)

Cheers!

-malik
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-10-25 14:03:52 UTC
Just went through it, and this looks great. Just one thing I noticed after loading it in EVEmon is that it's really not optimized attribute wise. You can cut like 30 days out of this training plan by just using proper attribute remaps. If I may make a suggestion, that would be it. :)

Aside from that, good stuff! :D
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-10-25 14:47:00 UTC
Aivo Dresden wrote:
Just went through it, and this looks great. Just one thing I noticed after loading it in EVEmon is that it's really not optimized attribute wise. You can cut like 30 days out of this training plan by just using proper attribute remaps. If I may make a suggestion, that would be it. :)

Aside from that, good stuff! :D



I didn't know you could save it with the optimized attributes? I was just going to mention it in the post on the new players board when/if I put it up there? I will have to try that though for sure! Thanks for mentioning it.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#9 - 2013-10-25 16:43:54 UTC
small blasters and amarr cruiser 5 is all you need for pvp

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Zao Amadues
DO YOU EVEN
#10 - 2013-10-25 17:01:51 UTC
Great streamer, Great newbro Skill Plan for people trying to get into pvp early and build on an idea. This also translates well into tackle for fleets as you are blaster based and used to getting in close and knowing what you can/can't get close to. I Approve!

ZAO
Beaver Retriever
Reality Sequence
#11 - 2013-10-25 18:09:50 UTC
When are you going to literally cry on stream again because you got aboo-boo-blobbed by people lacking in e-honoure?
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-10-25 18:18:22 UTC
As soon as I finish these 12 beers.

<3

you know you love me.

-malik
k4t4r Burseg
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-10-28 12:30:08 UTC
Very nice thread:D BUMP!
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-10-28 12:31:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Malik Fett
Amarr plan coming soon.

Cheers,

-malik
Arenos244
Fiskus Skarbowka Komornicy
#15 - 2013-10-29 14:15:43 UTC
I wondering why we should learn Cybernetic II and III ?
Malik Fett
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-10-29 14:33:34 UTC
haha good question, it has been moved to later in the plan. I thought it was needed to use learning implants. The reason I am keeping it on the plan is because you need it to 3 to use +3 fitting implants which can be really useful. Also any +3 gunnery implant and such.

Thanks for the input!

Cheers!

-malik
Kurtis Khagah
The Pinecone Squad
United Federation of Conifers
#17 - 2013-10-29 21:27:56 UTC
I bookmarked this thread for future reference, thanks.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2013-10-29 23:01:55 UTC
You should add small railgun spec also, didn't see it. And as mentioned maybe talk about proper attribute mapping, it can save heaps of time if mapped properly and using implants. Cerebral accelerators are also handy you can get over 2mil SP in your first month if you do it right, fairly costly exercise though.

Looks good though.
BTW, love your stream..
Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-11-01 22:51:37 UTC
Could u make a seperate one for caldari (less drone focused)
Titus Marrs
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-11-03 17:46:25 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
You should add small railgun spec also, didn't see it. And as mentioned maybe talk about proper attribute mapping, it can save heaps of time if mapped properly and using implants. Cerebral accelerators are also handy you can get over 2mil SP in your first month if you do it right, fairly costly exercise though.

Looks good though.
BTW, love your stream..

+1 to your suggestions.

I just joined EvE and in a packaged deal offered, i was given a Cerebral accelerator. I knew it sped things up, just didn't know how to use my bonus remaps to make things quick. I read the attributes i would want to learn gunnery faster, just not sure if those same attributes help gunnery performance in pvp situations. BTW, im training for small railgun for the Atron. 150mm rail II with antimtter rounds looks like it might work good :)
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