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FW - LP for kills questions

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Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#1 - 2013-11-03 02:08:29 UTC
Hello all.

I have never really paid much attention to it before, but when logging on after dinner today I actually read some of my new "war" notifications, and checked the kills they corresponded to.

I had previously assumed the LP payout was flatly based on the value of the kill, equal across tiers, but this seems not to be so. I have an example here in which I have anonomised the name out of respect.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6599/g73a.gif

As you see the killmail shows that 26,585 LP was due to be paid out, yet I only received 6,646 LP instead.

My first thought was that the kill might have been effected by tier, Gallente are currently tier 1 so if that was the case I would only recieve 50% of the LP due which would be 13,292 or so. Evidently this isn't right, so I next considered the contested level of the system I killed my opponent in.

In the case of complexes payouts in friendly systems are something like (X * Tier modifier * contested percentage) of system. In this case nennamaila was around 10%. So if that were to follow I would expect 26585 * 0.5 * 0.1 which would be a pitiful 1,329 LP.

In any case neither of these numbers is in the ballpark of what I was paid from the total pay available, I have asked a few places in game but no conclusive answer was forthcoming. So, I turn to you good forum people to ejumacate me about FW payouts for kills, and put my mind to rest as to why I appear to be being fleeced of almost 80% of my earnings from PVP.

Thanks for any help understanding this, and please forgive the vaguery of my maths, although not precise I hope it illustrates that the payout received doesnt match the equivalent 'plex calculations, nor a flat payout.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#2 - 2013-11-03 02:41:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
it is modified by the tier. check the mail you get. The mail should have the correct values, where the km has the base payout.

edit: i forgot, its also split between all friendlies on grid or in fleet (or on grid + in fleet.. i don't know the exact rule)

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Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#3 - 2013-11-03 02:43:55 UTC
26585 /2 = 13292

13292 /2 = 6646

I've no idea why it only gave you 25%.... though I know militia rank difference comes into it too.

I just spotted the numbers... Just call me Rainman.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#4 - 2013-11-03 02:44:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Mehashi 'Kho
The mail is that visible in the linked picture below the killmail.

The killmail states 26k, the mail states 6k, and the LP in my journal indicates the mail and not the killmail are correct.

I described in the OP the calculation if tier was the factor, and those numbers do not match.

*Edit for Vyktors reply*

Well spotted there Vyktor, although that only confuses me further as the contested rate of nenna is not 50%. Is there another modifier I am unaware of?

*Damn double edit* my militia rank is Leuitenant General, the one below the top rank.

*Triple edit for bienators edit* I was the only fw person apart from my target on grid. There was a neutral (not FW enrolled) in a magnate about 140km away at the time.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#5 - 2013-11-03 03:16:31 UTC
As the numbers would suggest I recieved exactly half of the payout bienator and others have suggested I should have recieved, I cannot rule out that a friendly slipped into the plex (I was fighting outside) at the moment I killed the target. When fighting I use a tab that removes friendlies, and switch back to the full tab after the fight.

I never saw anyone else in space and I do fight zoomed out a lot, and I was flying solo - but for now it is the best explanation I can think of. I will ask around the people who were active at the time and see if it correlates and any of them got a random payout at that time. Thanks for the help. I will update the OP if I get confirmation.
Degnar Oskold
Moira.
#6 - 2013-11-06 16:18:38 UTC
It's possible that a friendly cloaky ship decloaked at the moment of the kill .