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"Nerf This!"

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#41 - 2011-11-17 22:38:03 UTC
m0cking bird wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
m0cking bird wrote:
I wish I could NERF things in real life. Swing a b@t and knock anything I believe is ******** out... NERF TAXES!

Are you even in the middle class?



UPPER lower MIDDLE CLASSS B!TCH! WELFARE WHAT!?

You then have the right to complain about taxes, since you actually pay the majority of them. Pirate


I am meanwhile living the high life on Uncle Sam's dime, with the Post-9/11 GI Bill literally paying me to attend university.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#42 - 2011-11-17 22:53:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis
Lyris Nairn wrote:

The most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road are manufactured by which of these auto companies?
(a) Jeep
(b) Ford
(c) Dodge
(d) Chevrolet


TRICK QUESTION?

e) None of the Above
xxxak
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2011-11-17 23:05:23 UTC
Your poast makes my loins quiver.

[u]The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run.[/u]

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#44 - 2011-11-17 23:10:04 UTC
Nimrod Nemesis wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:

The most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road are manufactured by which of these auto companies?
(a) Jeep
(b) Ford
(c) Dodge
(d) Chevrolet


TRICK QUESTION?

e) None of the Above

No, it's not a trick question. It's a question to determine which statement has been heard the most.

I suppose it could seem to be a trick question if you've never heard an American automobile advertisement?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#45 - 2011-11-17 23:13:28 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Nimrod Nemesis wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:

The most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road are manufactured by which of these auto companies?
(a) Jeep
(b) Ford
(c) Dodge
(d) Chevrolet


TRICK QUESTION?

e) None of the Above

No, it's not a trick question. It's a question to determine which statement has been heard the most.

I suppose it could seem to be a trick question if you've never heard an American automobile advertisement?


Except none of them are REALLY long-lasting and most aren't even manufactured (completely) in the US.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2011-11-17 23:22:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Nimrod Nemesis wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Nimrod Nemesis wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:

The most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road are manufactured by which of these auto companies?
(a) Jeep
(b) Ford
(c) Dodge
(d) Chevrolet


TRICK QUESTION?

e) None of the Above

No, it's not a trick question. It's a question to determine which statement has been heard the most.

I suppose it could seem to be a trick question if you've never heard an American automobile advertisement?


Except none of them are REALLY long-lasting and most aren't even manufactured (completely) in the US.

Which is not the point at all. Did you even read the entirety of the post, or did you skim past half of it and then decide to argue with it as soon as you saw something that you felt could be controverted?

The entire point, expressed in the first sentence of the post you have quoted, is that repetition of a non-fact in the public arena ingrains that idea into the public consciousness and makes it a "fact," because we live in a post-fact culture. You are factually correct; none of the options presented truthfully answer the question, in part because the question cannot be objectively answered. But I assume you have heard Chevrolet's advertising claim that they make the most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road. It isn't a provable statement; it isn't a fact at all; but, had you played along with the quiz (answering with the first, knee-jerk response that came to mind), even if you are aware of evidence to the contrary you are also aware that Chevrolet immediately pops into your head.

Would you have preferred that I asked the question, "Which of these auto manufacturers produces light trucks that most resemble stones?" That's a play on another Chevrolet truck advertisement, making the claim that Chevy is "Like a Rock". Would that have triggered this childish slap-fight, too? The question is not literal, and it is not asking for a literal reply.

I could be wrong, of course; it is possible that you have never heard commercials for Chevrolet trucks, or that you have not heard them enough for them to stick into your head. But it is my assumption that you have, and that you either skimmed the post and missed its point or that you are being intentionally obtuse so that you can stand on a pedestal and regale us with how incredibly smart you are to have done a google search.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#47 - 2011-11-17 23:31:26 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:

did you skim past half of it and then decide to argue with it as soon as you saw something that you felt could be controverted?


Yes.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#48 - 2011-11-17 23:32:02 UTC
Nimrod Nemesis wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:

did you skim past half of it and then decide to argue with it as soon as you saw something that you felt could be controverted?


Yes.

At least you are honest! But maybe don't do that.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#49 - 2011-11-17 23:37:20 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:

At least you are honest! But maybe don't do that.

Awww. UghEvil
Spineker
#50 - 2011-11-17 23:55:16 UTC
Cap and Super-Cap OP failpost.

Nerf them
Uppsy Daisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#51 - 2011-11-18 00:01:21 UTC
Quote:
Quiz Time!
- By your first, instinctual, knee-jerk response, please answer the following questions:

The most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road are manufactured by which of these auto companies?
(a) Jeep
(b) Ford
(c) Dodge
(d) Chevrolet

Which most accurately describes the truth about climate change and global warming?
(a) Climate change and global warming are disputed facts, and may not be occurring at all.
(b) Climate change and global warming are disputed facts, being explainable by natural occurrences.
(c) Climate change and global warming are widely accepted, and human activity is the primary cause.
(d) Climate change and global warming are widely accepted, but are explained by natural occurrences.


Well, I am not in the US so I have absolutely no idea about the first question.

However, the second question is fascinating, especially given that the OP must be american I think, from the truck brands...

What is the answer to the second question? As a scientifically educated ex-climate change sceptic, I would say most in the UK would go for (c) nowadays, and I would agree.

Also, am I the only one who is desperate to know what Lyris Nairn is like in real life?
Bomberlocks
Bombercorp
#52 - 2011-11-18 00:03:44 UTC
Ahmen to the OP. I am getting very tired of the constant whining.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2011-11-18 00:04:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Uppsy Daisy wrote:
Quote:
Quiz Time!
- By your first, instinctual, knee-jerk response, please answer the following questions:

The most dependable, longest-lasting trucks on the road are manufactured by which of these auto companies?
(a) Jeep
(b) Ford
(c) Dodge
(d) Chevrolet

Which most accurately describes the truth about climate change and global warming?
(a) Climate change and global warming are disputed facts, and may not be occurring at all.
(b) Climate change and global warming are disputed facts, being explainable by natural occurrences.
(c) Climate change and global warming are widely accepted, and human activity is the primary cause.
(d) Climate change and global warming are widely accepted, but are explained by natural occurrences.


Well, I am not in the US so I have absolutely no idea about the first question.

However, the second question is fascinating, especially given that the OP must be american I think, from the truck brands...

What is the answer to the second question? As a scientifically educated ex-climate change sceptic, I would say most in the UK would go for (c) nowadays, and I would agree.

The factually correct answer is (c); however, the publicly correct answer in the United States is either (a) or (b). This is due in part to the prevalence of FOX News as a major source of news for a majority of Americans: one cannot mention climate change or global warming on FOX News without first prefacing it with the phrase, "the scientifically-disputed fact of climate change," or, "the scientifically-disputed fact of global warming," according to internal directives. Another cause is that other news sources, in an effort to be objective, will give "equal time" to diverging opinions on all topics—even those where diverging opinions represent an extreme minority. While this is well and good when it comes to political and social concerns, it serves to confuse the reader or viewer in the case of scientific discourse especially when one considers that scientists are generally not in the same league as the news commentators interviewing them or those persons representing diverging opinions opposite them, with regards to public speaking and persuasion.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2011-11-18 00:07:50 UTC
Uppsy Daisy wrote:

Also, am I the only one who is desperate to know what Lyris Nairn is like in real life?

Lyris Nairn does not exist in "real life." Lyris Nairn is a legend given words by the Internet.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Zeomebuch Nova
Undrinkable Grog Inc.
#55 - 2011-11-18 01:50:36 UTC
fix winmatar please-
Grozdan Boyadijev
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2011-11-18 02:12:24 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
The factually correct answer is (c); however, the publicly correct answer in the United States is either (a) or (b). This is due in part to the prevalence of FOX News as a major source of news for a majority of Americans: one cannot mention climate change or global warming on FOX News without first prefacing it with the phrase, "the scientifically-disputed fact of climate change," or, "the scientifically-disputed fact of global warming," according to internal directives. Another cause is that other news sources, in an effort to be objective, will give "equal time" to diverging opinions on all topics—even those where diverging opinions represent an extreme minority. While this is well and good when it comes to political and social concerns, it serves to confuse the reader or viewer in the case of scientific discourse especially when one considers that scientists are generally not in the same league as the news commentators interviewing them or those persons representing diverging opinions opposite them, with regards to public speaking and persuasion.


Not to get into a huge global warming debate, but the amount of data involved is so staggering as to be almost impossible to meaningfully interpret. Yes, global temperatures seem to be on the rise in recent years, but as to whether it's human-caused or not, it's very difficult to prove, since we can't just remove billions of tons of gases from the atmosphere to see whether temperatures drop afterwards or anything like that. It'll take some more time (or measurable sea level increases) to definitively prove global warming.

Of course, that doesn't mean that anyone saying "GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE" is right, just that the other half shouldn't take it as scripture either. A theory simply explains what we observe around us, and is only accurate as long as the observations match predictions.
Uppsy Daisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#57 - 2011-11-18 11:33:58 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Uppsy Daisy wrote:

Also, am I the only one who is desperate to know what Lyris Nairn is like in real life?

Lyris Nairn does not exist in "real life." Lyris Nairn is a legend given words by the Internet.


Now you're just teasing me.
Austneal
Nero Fazione
#58 - 2011-11-18 12:25:59 UTC
Shadowsword wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
"Fly with friends."

I have several Dramiel kills with my Rifter, leading gangs of 20 or so out on roams.


Don't try to avoid the point by invoking the number argument.

I'll make it clearer for you: How do you kill 20 Dramiels with your 20 rifters?


My Rifter should be able to solo a Dramiel, dammit!
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2011-11-18 12:29:29 UTC
Grozdan Boyadijev wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
The factually correct answer is (c); however, the publicly correct answer in the United States is either (a) or (b). This is due in part to the prevalence of FOX News as a major source of news for a majority of Americans: one cannot mention climate change or global warming on FOX News without first prefacing it with the phrase, "the scientifically-disputed fact of climate change," or, "the scientifically-disputed fact of global warming," according to internal directives. Another cause is that other news sources, in an effort to be objective, will give "equal time" to diverging opinions on all topics—even those where diverging opinions represent an extreme minority. While this is well and good when it comes to political and social concerns, it serves to confuse the reader or viewer in the case of scientific discourse especially when one considers that scientists are generally not in the same league as the news commentators interviewing them or those persons representing diverging opinions opposite them, with regards to public speaking and persuasion.


Not to get into a huge global warming debate, but the amount of data involved is so staggering as to be almost impossible to meaningfully interpret. Yes, global temperatures seem to be on the rise in recent years, but as to whether it's human-caused or not, it's very difficult to prove, since we can't just remove billions of tons of gases from the atmosphere to see whether temperatures drop afterwards or anything like that. It'll take some more time (or measurable sea level increases) to definitively prove global warming.

Of course, that doesn't mean that anyone saying "GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE" is right, just that the other half shouldn't take it as scripture either. A theory simply explains what we observe around us, and is only accurate as long as the observations match predictions.

So far the observations have not matched global warming predictions—they have exceeded them.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#60 - 2011-11-18 12:44:13 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Grozdan Boyadijev wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
The factually correct answer is (c); however, the publicly correct answer in the United States is either (a) or (b). This is due in part to the prevalence of FOX News as a major source of news for a majority of Americans: one cannot mention climate change or global warming on FOX News without first prefacing it with the phrase, "the scientifically-disputed fact of climate change," or, "the scientifically-disputed fact of global warming," according to internal directives. Another cause is that other news sources, in an effort to be objective, will give "equal time" to diverging opinions on all topics—even those where diverging opinions represent an extreme minority. While this is well and good when it comes to political and social concerns, it serves to confuse the reader or viewer in the case of scientific discourse especially when one considers that scientists are generally not in the same league as the news commentators interviewing them or those persons representing diverging opinions opposite them, with regards to public speaking and persuasion.


Not to get into a huge global warming debate, but the amount of data involved is so staggering as to be almost impossible to meaningfully interpret. Yes, global temperatures seem to be on the rise in recent years, but as to whether it's human-caused or not, it's very difficult to prove, since we can't just remove billions of tons of gases from the atmosphere to see whether temperatures drop afterwards or anything like that. It'll take some more time (or measurable sea level increases) to definitively prove global warming.

Of course, that doesn't mean that anyone saying "GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE" is right, just that the other half shouldn't take it as scripture either. A theory simply explains what we observe around us, and is only accurate as long as the observations match predictions.

So far the observations have not matched global warming predictions—they have exceeded them.


Human activity helps for sure, it's idiot to not admit it has it is also to not admit the term "cycle". How much human activity influence the temperature?

Unless someone is capable to say exactly with scientific proves what was the temperature of earth before that much human activity and the same moment of the current cycle, everything else is "words" and meanings to drive public opinion and make more money, nothing else.
It's all about $$, no one gives a **** about temperature nature whatsoever, every country continues to produce nice uber hp cars, jets, boats, oil products etc., do they really care about it? -of course not

Global warming isn't a lie is a fact, the reasons of this are many and the controversy of them is just intended to create more $, not to solve the problem.