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So yeah sentrys OP much?

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Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#41 - 2013-11-02 13:06:41 UTC
it's not two different fights iwasthere™
it was a pretty crazy fight, the guy with a raptor shooting torps clearly came back in a raptor after his first ship died, but you already know all this and i'm just replying to a troll.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#42 - 2013-11-02 13:13:15 UTC
Sentries to Stronk!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#43 - 2013-11-02 14:14:11 UTC
I'll let you know after our next 1000 drone assist fleets if many members have experienced doing massive damage to enemies with their sentries.

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#44 - 2013-11-02 15:05:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Cleaned up the thread a bit. Please remember to keep it on topic and civil or we'll have to do that thing everyone hates. Thanks!

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

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Interstellar Services Department
Poultergoose4
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-11-02 15:42:43 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Cleaned up the thread a bit. Please remember to keep it on topic and civil or we'll have to do that thing everyone hates. Thanks!

Free RP??

Sorry... wrong game
Nathalie LaPorte
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-11-02 16:19:16 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
Why is this thread so full of people who can't read?


Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha.


Sure. Full explanation here
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-11-02 20:12:38 UTC
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
Why is this thread so full of people who can't read?


Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha.


Sure. Full explanation here


The reading comprehension is strong with this one.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Icer Xx
Tempest Legion
#48 - 2013-11-02 21:20:31 UTC
Well so thanks for the support. But to some people you are so stupid.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#49 - 2013-11-02 22:04:10 UTC
Sala Cameron wrote:
We've noticed this as well and brought the problem forward to CCP, so they're aware of it.

tbh, i petitionned a few ship losses since a year where similar "weird" thing happen.

the answer was always the same: working has intended"

last one i even provided logs, showing the issue, the only answer i got was that CCP was not taking those as proof because of forged logs..... so yah, they aware, and they don't care....as usual....
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-11-02 22:07:01 UTC
Disregard everything else everyone was saying before, my ship just got killed by something so -NOW- its OP.

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Khrane
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-11-02 23:09:15 UTC
seth Hendar wrote:
Sala Cameron wrote:
We've noticed this as well and brought the problem forward to CCP, so they're aware of it.

tbh, i petitionned a few ship losses since a year where similar "weird" thing happen.

the answer was always the same: working has intended"

last one i even provided logs, showing the issue, the only answer i got was that CCP was not taking those as proof because of forged logs..... so yah, they aware, and they don't care....as usual....



This sounds different than your case because here there is a server side kill mail that shows the erroneous damage done by 2 Ishtars in conjunction with a video and client side logs.

Three distinct point of views all showing the same thing.
Makalu Zarya
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#52 - 2013-11-02 23:43:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Makalu Zarya
i went to my logs as soon as I saw the killmail with the silly final damages done to the carrier. I found it a bit weird at the time that the carrier disappeared from 5% armor to dead, but didn't think much of it.

going back to the logs however i found this

[ 2013.10.31 00:44:00 ] (combat) 121148 to Icer Xx[P5YCH](Archon) - Curator II - Smashes

so we discovered this pretty much a few minutes after the killmail went up on eve-kill, frankly i'm as puzzled as everyone else.

My guess is that something with refitting bulkheads caused this, since I've never really seen anything like this before.

as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.
Icer Xx
Tempest Legion
#53 - 2013-11-02 23:47:49 UTC
I had about 20 sec on coming out of triage so prob would of lived and warped off.
Khrane
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-11-03 00:38:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Khrane
Makalu Zarya wrote:

as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.



So you agree that he died to a bug but you don't think that calls for reimbursement? Isn't that the BEST reason to file a petition for reimbursement? Can we please get less trolling and personal opinions on this thread.

There are factual statements and logs showing that 2 lone sentry drones hit for over 250,000 damage and yet people come to this thread and fail to grasp what happened here thinking that OP is whining about sentries in general and not actually reading about this VERY serious bug which may or may not have been taken advantage of on purpose for in game monetary gain of rewards handed out for the Halloween event.

These are the facts. A bug occurred and a Pandemic Legion member profited as a direct result of the bug. Intentional or not it was exploited.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2013-11-03 00:44:20 UTC
Khrane wrote:
Makalu Zarya wrote:

as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.



So you agree that he died to a bug but you don't think that calls for reimbursement? Isn't that the BEST reason to file a petition for reimbursement? Can we please get less trolling and personal opinions on this thread.

There are factual statements and logs showing that 2 lone sentry drones hit for over 250,000 damage and yet people come to this thread and fail to grasp what happened here thinking that OP is whining about sentries in general and not actually reading about this VERY serious bug which may or may not have been taken advantage of on purpose for in game monetary gain of rewards handed out for the Halloween event.

These are the facts. A bug occurred and a Pandemic Legion member profited as a direct result of the bug. Intentional or not it was exploited.

Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2013-11-03 00:46:00 UTC
Ah. To be clear, I'm not saying that a petition should not be made asking for reimbursement should this turn out to be a bug which it almost certainly is
Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#57 - 2013-11-03 00:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jassmin Joy
Makalu Zarya wrote:
i went to my logs as soon as I saw the killmail with the silly final damages done to the carrier. I found it a bit weird at the time that the carrier disappeared from 5% armor to dead, but didn't think much of it.

going back to the logs however i found this

[ 2013.10.31 00:44:00 ] (combat) 121148 to Icer Xx[P5YCH](Archon) - Curator II - Smashes

so we discovered this pretty much a few minutes after the killmail went up on eve-kill, frankly i'm as puzzled as everyone else.

My guess is that something with refitting bulkheads caused this, since I've never really seen anything like this before.

as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.


He was literally just ending triage, had you not alpha'd him I'd have repped him as he aligned since I was 3/4 through my triage, tanked you then warped myself, so yes. he was surviving, easily.
Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#58 - 2013-11-03 00:58:12 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
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Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight.

The only ship i've ever had reimbursed was a moros that got killed after a dc where the fault was server side, like this. so that's not true in the slightest.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2013-11-03 01:01:20 UTC
Jassmin Joy wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
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Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight.

The only ship i've ever had reimbursed was a moros that got killed after a dc where the fault was server side, like this. so that's not true in the slightest.

you got lucky, then. i'm basing what imma saying off a gm statement here in the forums. are you going to make me search it up? Sad
Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#60 - 2013-11-03 01:06:55 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Jassmin Joy wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
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Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight.

The only ship i've ever had reimbursed was a moros that got killed after a dc where the fault was server side, like this. so that's not true in the slightest.

you got lucky, then. i'm basing what imma saying off a gm statement here in the forums. are you going to make me search it up? Sad

i don't doubt what you're saying, i was part of a group of people that got caps back, perhaps we're a rarity, my point was simply to show it happens.