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[Rubicon] Ships dropping from SMAs

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2013-11-02 16:45:10 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Hello everyone. We've got another Rubicon change to announce for you all.

Back at the end of last year CCP changed the way the starbase module Ship Maintenance Array destruction worked to prevent lag bombs. This also meant that those structures did not drop ships in any recoverable form when destroyed. This was obviously not the ideal long term solution so in Rubicon we have implemented a new feature for how SMA destruction is handled.

When a SMA is destroyed after Rubicon, it will drop a wreck. The wreck will contain ships dropped from the destroyed SMA, with each ship having the same 50% chance to drop that governs normal loot drop mechanics. That wreck will have special functionality that allows players to eject the intact ships out into space, where anyone can board them. You will also be able to fly up with a carrier or orca and drag ships directly into your ship hangar.

The act of destroying a SMA will now also provide a full killmail listing what ships and modules dropped and were destroyed.

It will not be possible to add ships to the wreck, and you can't board ships directly from the wreck since that would mean placing your current ship into it. We have also removed the multi-eject options from all SMAs and SMA wrecks to avoid node crushing volumes of ships entering space. You must eject ships one at a time.

The SMA and X-L SMA wrecks will have much higher hitpoints than normal wrecks, but can be destroyed, in which case their content disappears just like a normal wreck. They can only be salvaged if there are no ships left inside them.

:Edit v2: We are not going to be making any changes to the unanchor delays for starbase structures in Rubicon, as it turns out making that change would not actually solve the problem of loot denial with current mechanics. We will be investigating other options to solve the problem after Rubicon 1.0.

I want to thank the CSM for the help they provided in getting Team Five O the time carved out to complete this task properly, and for giving us feedback on the design as it developed.

This functionality is working on SISI as I post, so feel free to go try it out and let us know what you think.

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#2 - 2013-11-02 16:46:16 UTC
Thanks goonswarm for your thoughtful contribution to eve.

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Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-02 16:46:49 UTC
Lovely change. Space pinatas are a go!

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Aperture Harmonics
#4 - 2013-11-02 16:49:52 UTC
A long awaited change, made even more awesome by the killmail stuff. Time to go burn w-space down.

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Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-11-02 16:50:11 UTC
**** yeah!

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tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-02 16:53:55 UTC
Awesome!
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#7 - 2013-11-02 17:01:47 UTC
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-11-02 17:06:12 UTC
that's an awesome change
Guillaume LeConquerant
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-11-02 17:10:30 UTC
Fozzie is the best thing to have happened to this game in the past few years.

I endorse this product.
Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2013-11-02 17:11:18 UTC
Yessss. I'm so happy to see this posted, and so, so proud of the CSM process right now.

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Kali Aldard
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-11-02 17:13:53 UTC
Excellent change.
Gorski Car
#12 - 2013-11-02 17:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorski Car
Based god made me do this change - CCP Fozzie

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The Red Girl
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-11-02 17:18:52 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We have also removed the multi-eject options from all SMAs and SMA wrecks to avoid node crushing volumes of ships entering space. You must eject ships one at a time.


Wont this make the RVB frigate free for all a thing of the past? I mean yes, you could still eject them just fine. but launching 100k frigates 1 at a time? o.O
BadSeamus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-11-02 17:27:00 UTC
The Red Girl wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We have also removed the multi-eject options from all SMAs and SMA wrecks to avoid node crushing volumes of ships entering space. You must eject ships one at a time.


Wont this make the RVB frigate free for all a thing of the past? I mean yes, you could still eject them just fine. but launching 100k frigates 1 at a time? o.O


I think thats probably the intention?
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#15 - 2013-11-02 17:44:21 UTC
Thanks for the update, CCP, and solid support from our CSM!



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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2013-11-02 18:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: The Slayer
While you are playing about with posses can you make it so T3s can change subsystems at them THANKS IN ADVANCE.

The Red Girl wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We have also removed the multi-eject options from all SMAs and SMA wrecks to avoid node crushing volumes of ships entering space. You must eject ships one at a time.


Wont this make the RVB frigate free for all a thing of the past? I mean yes, you could still eject them just fine. but launching 100k frigates 1 at a time? o.O


Yeh see it wasn't an issue UNTIL there were 100K ships being launched at the same time, which CCP just stated causes the server to crash.
James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#17 - 2013-11-02 18:30:24 UTC
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Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-11-02 18:31:52 UTC
Excellent News!

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Kel hound
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-11-02 18:41:41 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hello everyone. We've got another Rubicon change to announce for you all.

Back at the end of last year CCP changed the way the starbase module Ship Maintenance Array destruction worked to prevent lag bombs. This also meant that those structures did not drop ships in any recoverable form when destroyed. This was obviously not the ideal long term solution so in Rubicon we have implemented a new feature for how SMA destruction is handled.

When a SMA is destroyed after Rubicon, it will drop a wreck. The wreck will contain ships dropped from the destroyed SMA, with each ship having the same 50% chance to drop that governs normal loot drop mechanics. That wreck will have special functionality that allows players to eject the intact ships out into space, where anyone can board them. You will also be able to fly up with a carrier or orca and drag ships directly into your ship hangar.

The act of destroying a SMA will now also provide a full killmail listing what ships and modules dropped and were destroyed.

It will not be possible to add ships to the wreck, and you can't board ships directly from the wreck since that would mean placing your current ship into it. We have also removed the multi-eject options from all SMAs and SMA wrecks to avoid node crushing volumes of ships entering space. You must eject ships one at a time.

The SMA and X-L SMA wrecks will have much higher hitpoints than normal wrecks, but can be destroyed, in which case their content disappears just like a normal wreck. They can only be salvaged if there are no ships left inside them.

I want to thank the CSM for the help they provided in getting Team Five O the time carved out to complete this task properly, and for giving us feedback on the design as it developed.

This functionality is working on SISI as I post, so feel free to go try it out and let us know what you think.



Fozzie you're attending EVE Downunder right? Whats your favorite kind of booze? I should like to buy you a bottle of it.

Thanks to CMS and CCP for fixing this bug!
Ripard Teg
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#20 - 2013-11-02 18:43:24 UTC
Woot! Glad this made it into Rubicon! Pirate

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