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Somer Blink - Asked to stop but have got worse!

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Frying Doom
#281 - 2013-11-02 10:06:48 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Rosewalker wrote:


I won't be jealous. Affiliate programs are okay, as long as they don't have the bonus. I just want them to stop breaking the EULA.


You mean you want what is already happening......
The only argument left is over if their actions are violating the spirit of their 10 day grace period they were given to sort themselves out.
Which is exactly the same grace period EVERYONE ELSE GOT! Caps so you don't miss it like the rest of the people flaming away here.
If you feel they have violated said spirit, I suggest E-mailing Internal Affairs as above over that point and asking them to look into it.

Otherwise, your demands have already been answered, they do have to stop breaking the EULA.

Shame about that other part of the EULA huh.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
AnUnskilled Pilot
Doomheim
#282 - 2013-11-02 11:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Ccp were probably in on it. That's why they are so silent and treading so carefully. If it actually came out that CCP were in on it, it would have a chance of destroying the company.

*Snip* Please refrain from spreading baseless rumors. ISD Ezwal

I'll keep playing though since It fun to pvp in a frig and the amount of cheating / general corruption is above my few bil wallet value
AnUnskilled Pilot
Doomheim
#283 - 2013-11-02 11:26:37 UTC
I am happy to say that I got 16 plex and a zeolot for $134, which feels awesome since I've always paid double that amount
IDGAD
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#284 - 2013-11-02 11:41:20 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
I am happy to say that I got 16 plex and a zeolot for $134, which feels awesome since I've always paid double that amount


lol so they modified the slot picker and flooded their own accounts to win most blinks?
AnUnskilled Pilot
Doomheim
#285 - 2013-11-02 11:57:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
IDGAD wrote:
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
I am happy to say that I got 16 plex and a zeolot for $134, which feels awesome since I've always paid double that amount


lol so they modified the slot picker and flooded their own accounts to win most blinks?


Not for isk. For real money. By seeding the somer market or feeding them isk.

*Snip* Please refrain from spreading baseless rumors. ISD Ezwal

Plex would be bought and sold without the existence of somer, at pretty much the same rate
RAW23
#286 - 2013-11-02 12:11:52 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
TigerXtrm wrote:


Yeah? Guess what? CCP made the rules. CCP gets to decide to whom they apply. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the army of forum trolls who somehow think they got a seat on the CCP board of directors.

CCP could be pulling a T20 scandal times 1000 and you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it. Don't like it? Biomass.


These assertions are so manifestly ungrounded in reality that it is hard to see why you would bother posting them.

Quote:
you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it


You are saying something that flies completely in the face of the evidence. Even as players are not just sitting here and taking it you assert that they have no other choice. You do see that the very conversation you are involved in refutes your assertions don't you?

Perhaps what you mean is that doing anything other than just accepting it will always be futile? But that is obviously refuted by the historical record. Player objections to CCP policies have forced CCP to change track and continue to do so. Notable examples from the past include T20 and Incarna but even in the present debate a refusal to 'take it', which you claim is the only option, has already yielded results, including the change of one significant policy. You seem to be so upset about the success 'the army of forum trolls' is having that reason has just gone out of the window and you're reduced to shoring your own views up by just denying the reality unfolding around you.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#287 - 2013-11-02 13:36:59 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking?

Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs? Or... OH NO! The Mittani! For his role on the CSM and because he was asked as a speaker on EVE Vegas...

Christ the feeling of entitlement is so big around this place it's blocking out the sun at this point. If you do special things in EVE (good or bad in your own opinion) you get special treatment. Bloggers get FREE (yes free, as in no money involved, SHOCKING!) media accounts. Are you going to vomit over that as well because not everyone has that privilege?

All in all it's very similar to this thing you might know, called life. Life is not fair and neither is EVE, both in and outside of the game. Don't like it? Do something about it.

P.S. Whining on a forum does not constitute 'doing something'.



Go **** yourself you complete moron.

This "oh it's np i talked to CCP on skype" is exactly the kind of **** that let Sirmolle and Dianabolic off the hook with the whole T20 thing.


Cheating ingame by spawning BPO's is one thing (especially if you loose the war anyway lol) but having a ******* shameless RMT shop sponsored by CCP Rise and his buddies is quite another. My money is better spent elsewhere, I'm ******* done with this game untill we get something remoteley resembling fair enforcement of the EULA.


"Entitlement" lol, what is this to you the teaparty community? Go **** yourself.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#288 - 2013-11-02 14:48:59 UTC
mama guru wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking?

Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs? Or... OH NO! The Mittani! For his role on the CSM and because he was asked as a speaker on EVE Vegas...

Christ the feeling of entitlement is so big around this place it's blocking out the sun at this point. If you do special things in EVE (good or bad in your own opinion) you get special treatment. Bloggers get FREE (yes free, as in no money involved, SHOCKING!) media accounts. Are you going to vomit over that as well because not everyone has that privilege?

All in all it's very similar to this thing you might know, called life. Life is not fair and neither is EVE, both in and outside of the game. Don't like it? Do something about it.

P.S. Whining on a forum does not constitute 'doing something'.



Go **** yourself you complete moron.

This "oh it's np i talked to CCP on skype" is exactly the kind of **** that let Sirmolle and Dianabolic off the hook with the whole T20 thing.


Cheating ingame by spawning BPO's is one thing (especially if you loose the war anyway lol) but having a ******* shameless RMT shop sponsored by CCP Rise and his buddies is quite another. My money is better spent elsewhere, I'm ******* done with this game untill we get something remoteley resembling fair enforcement of the EULA.


"Entitlement" lol, what is this to you the teaparty community? Go **** yourself.

shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#289 - 2013-11-02 14:53:33 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
You are saying something that flies completely in the face of the evidence. Even as players are not just sitting here and taking it you assert that they have no other choice. You do see that the very conversation you are involved in refutes your assertions don't you?

Perhaps what you mean is that doing anything other than just accepting it will always be futile? But that is obviously refuted by the historical record. Player objections to CCP policies have forced CCP to change track and continue to do so. Notable examples from the past include T20 and Incarna but even in the present debate a refusal to 'take it', which you claim is the only option, has already yielded results, including the change of one significant policy. You seem to be so upset about the success 'the army of forum trolls' is having that reason has just gone out of the window and you're reduced to shoring your own views up by just denying the reality unfolding around you.

I like how they are sounding the retreat for us.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#290 - 2013-11-02 15:00:52 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for

…well, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#291 - 2013-11-02 15:25:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for

…well, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count.

Hes quoting CCP [gettingpaidbysomer]

RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
Prince Kobol
#292 - 2013-11-02 15:29:25 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for

…well, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count.


How much have you donated to player run events?
Obunagawe
#293 - 2013-11-02 15:31:40 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for

…well, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count.


How much have you donated to player run events?


Taking money from players then giving a very small part back to them (and redacteding the rest) doesn't sound very charitable.
Kate stark
#294 - 2013-11-02 15:32:00 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for

…well, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count.


How much have you donated to player run events?


if i got more isk from incursions every time i donated isk to something then i'd be the most philanthropic ************ in the game.

unfortunately my form of making isk isn't benefited by pretending to be benevolent.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#295 - 2013-11-02 15:32:34 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
How much have you donated to player run events?

How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community.

The event organisers contributed; Somer did not.
Prince Kobol
#296 - 2013-11-02 15:40:36 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
How much have you donated to player run events?

How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community.

The event organisers contributed; Somer did not.


Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there.

Also, if they were sponsoring player events for the sole purpose to promote their business as you say, then surely wouldn't they advertise the fact on their website every time they donated isk?

Maybe even post on the forum?

I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#297 - 2013-11-02 15:44:07 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
How much have you donated to player run events?

How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community.

The event organisers contributed; Somer did not.


Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there.

Also, if they were sponsoring player events for the sole purpose to promote their business as you say, then surely wouldn't they advertise the fact on their website every time they donated isk?

Maybe even post on the forum?

I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it.

But thats what you would do as a "community contributor"

RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#298 - 2013-11-02 15:46:51 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there.
Of course it's no surprise — it's of absolutely zero relevance.

Quote:
I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it.
…and since their name pops up in connection with so many player events, such silly mistakes were obviously not done.
Prince Kobol
#299 - 2013-11-02 15:47:25 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
How much have you donated to player run events?

How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community.

The event organisers contributed; Somer did not.


Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there.

Also, if they were sponsoring player events for the sole purpose to promote their business as you say, then surely wouldn't they advertise the fact on their website every time they donated isk?

Maybe even post on the forum?

I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it.

But thats what you would do as a "community contributor"


So does that they have or haven't contributed to the community?
Prince Kobol
#300 - 2013-11-02 15:49:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there.
Of course it's no surprise — it's of absolutely zero relevance.

Quote:
I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it.
…and since their name pops up in connection with so many player events, such silly mistakes were obviously not done.


lmao,

So in other words no you haven't.

So even a business as ruthless and evil such as Somer has contributed and helped player events where as you haven't

Nice Big smile