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Zenith Gravit
LionGate Enterprises
#1 - 2013-11-01 21:56:17 UTC
I spend my ratting time in Sansha sov null and currently have a BS that honestly does well for me, but its very boring to fly. It uses sentries so I'm generally not moving, which is what I miss. I'm looking for a mobile platform with a, that can do better than 850dps, before implants or drones. Any suggestions, or am I dreaming?
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#2 - 2013-11-01 22:11:03 UTC
Zenith Gravit wrote:
I spend my ratting time in Sansha sov null and currently have a BS that honestly does well for me, but its very boring to fly. It uses sentries so I'm generally not moving, which is what I miss. I'm looking for a mobile platform with a, that can do better than 850dps, before implants or drones. Any suggestions, or am I dreaming?


Pulse, Shield nano oracle. Easily over 850 DPS.
Zenith Gravit
LionGate Enterprises
#3 - 2013-11-01 22:55:44 UTC
I do have an Oracle laying around. AB too I'm guessing?
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#4 - 2013-11-01 23:15:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Chessur
Zenith Gravit wrote:
I do have an Oracle laying around. AB too I'm guessing?


You can AB it, MWD works as well. Something like this:

Mega Pulse Laser II X 8

10MN AB II or 10MN Experimental MWD
LSE II
LSE II

Heat sink II X3
Tracking Enhancer II X2
Damage Control

medium Energy Locus RIg II
medium Energy Locus Rig II
medium Energy Metastasis Rig I

There ya go.
Mikokoel
Mining Industry Exile Foundation
Synergy of Steel
#5 - 2013-11-02 01:56:39 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Zenith Gravit wrote:
I do have an Oracle laying around. AB too I'm guessing?


You can AB it, MWD works as well. Something like this:

Heavy Pulse Laser II X 8

10MN AB II or 10MN Experimental MWD
LSE II
LSE II

Heat sink II X3
Tracking Enhancer II X2
Damage Control

Large Energy Locus RIg II
Large Energy Locus Rig II
Large Energy Metastasis Rig I

There ya go.


He most likely means Mega Pulse Laser II

Mikokoel | Head FC League of Unaligned Master Pilots
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#6 - 2013-11-02 02:52:04 UTC
Mikokoel wrote:
Chessur wrote:
Zenith Gravit wrote:
I do have an Oracle laying around. AB too I'm guessing?


You can AB it, MWD works as well. Something like this:

Heavy Pulse Laser II X 8

10MN AB II or 10MN Experimental MWD
LSE II
LSE II

Heat sink II X3
Tracking Enhancer II X2
Damage Control

Large Energy Locus RIg II
Large Energy Locus Rig II
Large Energy Metastasis Rig I

There ya go.


He most likely means Mega Pulse Laser II


woops, mega pulse II thanks for correcting me, edited.
Zenith Gravit
LionGate Enterprises
#7 - 2013-11-02 05:47:16 UTC
Just realized I said ratting, which I know usually refers to belt ratting when I actually meant anomalies. This fit still viable?
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#8 - 2013-11-02 10:31:21 UTC
Zenith Gravit wrote:
Just realized I said ratting, which I know usually refers to belt ratting when I actually meant anomalies. This fit still viable?


In an anom? Probably not. I can blitz missions with the fit I gave you, but probably not anoms, unless you have something else tanking. However that being said- I have never tried,
Cyrus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-11-02 13:13:57 UTC
If you are ratting in sansha space, the nightmare is naturally the ship to go with. Using only 4 turrets, it's easier to make it cap stable. Gets around 750 DPS at 50km with scorch and without using drones or implants. 920 DPS+ with faction multispecs at 17km.
BA Barakuss
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-11-02 15:01:19 UTC
Cyrus wrote:
If you are ratting in sansha space, the nightmare is naturally the ship to go with. Using only 4 turrets, it's easier to make it cap stable. Gets around 750 DPS at 50km with scorch and without using drones or implants. 920 DPS+ with faction multispecs at 17km.


Have a fit you want to share? I am in the same boat as OP. Please and thanks!
Moryg H'qarr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-02 16:23:45 UTC
For sansha forsaken hub farming:

http://i.imgur.com/Byo78rq.png

The only expensive item is the c-type armor repper, you can use a t2 armor repper, but you'll have to sacrifice the web or TC for an extra cap recharger and the cap relay for an EANM / reactive hardener.

If you want to go blingier, get the navy heatsinks (about 60 extra dps according to eft, not worth the price tag imo) or go CNR / Golem (once rubicon hits).
David Kir
Errantry Armaments
#12 - 2013-11-02 16:46:03 UTC
We're talking null ratting here, I would advise against anything expensive.

A pulse Abaddon will deliver 1,1 k dps with Conflagration, almost 800 dps with Scorch up to 45 km.
Cheap, tanky, does the job.
Doesn't need any bling, doesn't need any particular piloting skills.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
BA Barakuss
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-11-02 19:31:12 UTC
David Kir wrote:
We're talking null ratting here, I would advise against anything expensive.

A pulse Abaddon will deliver 1,1 k dps with Conflagration, almost 800 dps with Scorch up to 45 km.
Cheap, tanky, does the job.
Doesn't need any bling, doesn't need any particular piloting skills.


Never flown an aba before. Have a fit for it?
David Kir
Errantry Armaments
#14 - 2013-11-02 22:25:04 UTC

BA Barakuss wrote:

Never flown an aba before. Have a fit for it?


I used to run this when I was in Providence:

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Large Armor Repairer II
EM Hardener
EM Hardener
Therm Hardner

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
100MN Afterburner II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

This is a max tank fit, you can downgrade the staying power for more DPS/cap according to your ratting habits.
Warp to the anomaly, kill a cruiser and approach the wreck.

The cap booster is for emergencies, otherwise just pulse your repper when you reach 40% armor and blap things as fast as you can. Switch to tracking scripts when dealing with frigs.
As always, gank is tank.
This isn't a low skills fit, you need good support skills (especially cap and fitting) to run it.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Zenith Gravit
LionGate Enterprises
#15 - 2013-11-03 12:24:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Zenith Gravit
Moryg H'qarr wrote:
For sansha forsaken hub farming:

http://i.imgur.com/Byo78rq.png

The only expensive item is the c-type armor repper, you can use a t2 armor repper, but you'll have to sacrifice the web or TC for an extra cap recharger and the cap relay for an EANM / reactive hardener.

If you want to go blingier, get the navy heatsinks (about 60 extra dps according to eft, not worth the price tag imo) or go CNR / Golem (once rubicon hits).


That N.Geddon is similar to what I'm flying now, I'm using 1 less resist, Gardes, and 2 DDA IIs. It puts out almost 1100dps at the right range. I was just trying to get away from the need for drones. I was kinda hoping there was a T3, HAC, or pirate BS that did similar DPS, just without drones.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#16 - 2013-11-04 08:00:08 UTC
Zenith Gravit wrote:
Moryg H'qarr wrote:
For sansha forsaken hub farming:

http://i.imgur.com/Byo78rq.png

The only expensive item is the c-type armor repper, you can use a t2 armor repper, but you'll have to sacrifice the web or TC for an extra cap recharger and the cap relay for an EANM / reactive hardener.

If you want to go blingier, get the navy heatsinks (about 60 extra dps according to eft, not worth the price tag imo) or go CNR / Golem (once rubicon hits).


That N.Geddon is similar to what I'm flying now, I'm using 1 less resist, Gardes, and 2 DDA IIs. It puts out almost 1100dps at the right range. I was just trying to get away from the need for drones. I was kinda hoping there was a T3, HAC, or pirate BS that did similar DPS, just without drones.


good old tach nightmare can do that

[Nightmare, New Setup 1]
True Sansha Heat Sink
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II

rigs up to you
over 900 dps with no drones at 45+46km range, faction ammo really last for a long time with tach, problem could be cap boosters but just put a container in you favorite system.
if you want more mobility you can change some mids for a mwd/mjd/ab