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Thank you sir for your measured and encouraging reply.

Your explanation has, in my estimation, clarified the position of your association regarding the possible "independence" of the Intaki Sovereignty in a very positive light.

The inclusion of all peoples living within said affected areas alleviates many of my concerns related to your efforts.

I will watch more carefully and with greater understanding your efforts in the future.

Again thank you for your response.​

Bataav like to thankyou for you excellent post on the Intaki secession, and educating some of us on this topic. You know the fight for indepence from the Federation will not be an easy one. I wish the ILF goodluck with their goal of an independent Intaki nation. Im sure there are many Caldari who would have sympathy for your cause.

Horn, as a Provist, you're very good at selectively ignoring points that offend your worldview and aren't convenient to your arguments, so let me just reiterate for you in case you forgot - Provist do not support Intaki seccession out of any genuine sympathy. Provists have, in fact, done more to harm the Intaki people than the Federation ever did. Invading and occupying Federal territory after another illegal invasion already obtained for the State the one piece of territory in the Federation they had a remotely legitimate claim to, auctioning off the systems as if they were yours to sell - Provists are no friends of the Intaki, you least of all.

We all know the real reason most Caldari support the Intaki seccessionalist movement. There's never been any doubt: it's about weakening the Federation, the same way we've seen a mysterious outpouring of support from certain quarters of the State regarding the recent actions by the Republic. Many posters are at least honest enough to actually admit to it, and a fair few of the rest make it transparently obvious. The funny thing is that most posters of this type are also intelligent enough that they can see - much as most Intaki do - why Intaki seccession would be a bad idea, which would suggest Provists at least and possibly other State posters are actively encouraging an inadvisible course of action out of sheer spite.

Thats a pretty sweeping statement Ixiris and i disagree. Caldari know all about the struggle for independence from the Federation. We won our fight for independence, even though it still has a lasting effect on us today. We know how hard it will be for the Intaki seccession movement to achieve their goal of independence from the Federation. Just like there are Intaki who sympathize with the Caldari cause , there will be Caldari who have genuine sympathy with the Intaki seccession movement.

I would be happy to see the CEP openly or covertly offer support to Intaki seccession organisations. It is true that our enemies enemy is our friend, but this does not mean that there cant be genuine sympathy for the Intaki seccession movement.



Provists were pasionate about their fight for independence from the Federation, and for the fight of their homeworld. It is you who is no friend of the Intaki seccession movement.



I know i am a provist, but it does not mean i support all the policies of the Heth regime. I know the Intaki system is in the war zone, so i know the relationship between us may not be an easy one, but there is a common goal independence from the Federation. We have achieved ours, we should look to come closer help you achieve yours.



I am Bryen, those Intaki thought bravely and honourably for the State during our fight for independence and deserved better.

You know all this talk of leaked documents and espionage got me to thinking on an ancillary related topic: conspiracy theories.

Of course, most conspiracy theories can be fun because you really can just make things up over a nice glass vodka while watching the ships drift by at the docks. I admit I dabble in it from time to time, and why, just recently I pondered just how Tibus Heth got the billions to trillions of ISK to acquire Caldari Constructions on a forklift driver's salary.

Then I thought to myself, hey you know what, imagine hypothetically if I was say... the CEO of a Federal corporation whose core business was in military industries, armaments, and their sale. Let's call this company Rodent Shipyards (Such Feds can be such rats, eh?) and imagine how galling it must have been to watch those profit margins shrink due to the policies of an Administration such as Foiritain's. All that cutting of the defence budget, the re-allocation of funds earmarked for arms procurement towards such vile things as health, education, welfare and social programs. What kind of bastard spends Federal taxes for the support of their people instead of defending Freedom and Liberty -- by spending those Federal taxes on the procurement of armaments my company provides and subsidizing the next generation of Research and Development projects?

Even worse, the fool Foiritain sought to repair relations with the Caldari! How can the Federal military industrial complex survive without an external threat to ram down the proles throats and justify massive spending on defence? Sure, I as the hypothetical CEO of Rodent Shipyards probably could care less about the average Federal citizen's opinion, but there's a damn lot more of them than me and they just don't understand proper business and how to defend Freedom.

What needs to be done is to remind people how necessary it is to defend Freedom. There is no greater threat to Freedom than being invaded. Even better if it's by an enemy such as the Caldari, because there's all that history there. Certainly as a well connected and rich hypothetical CEO one would just have to seek to engineer a situation in the State to create the war I and all my investment banker friends need to get rich at the expense of my fellow citizens. Hey, why not be an opportunist and pave the way for a xenophobic, racist, nationalist by giving him some shares in a mid-tier State company to ease his way to the top while engineering some media events to give him a platform to provoke an invasion and war?

Nothing like having a predictable pawn to do just as you want without needing to be told.

Then once the war begins, everyone in on the deal gets rich on arms sales and speculation with the added bonus of granting an excuse to revoke some of those annoying civil liberties that are so anti-business and keeps honest entrepreneurs down. The average citizen wants security anyway, and there's no better way to ensure that security with an internal investigation agency. What use is freedom if you're not safe enough to enjoy it, right?

Anyway, that's my attempt at conspiracy theory. Time to get another vodka.

Carry on!

It should be a constant point of vigilance and concern that in a culture that bases itself on personal and professional merit, the skill required to infiltrate and co-opt control of given political and corporate situations usually flags up as meritorious when not witnessed as an act of espionage.

That is to say; good spies show the hallmarks of good employees. After all, that is their job, and they are capable of long-term planning and adaptation to changing circumstances if they don't want to end up on the wrong side of an interrogation session.

Does it?

I'm just a rather simple, mundane, and boring management type who enjoys some vodka here and then. All this political intrigue and talk of corporate and industrial espionage is just out of my league and my knowledge of it probably only comes from b-grade holo flicks I watch while filing some forms.

Because in the history of mankind no group ever conspired to achieve its agenda by using immoral and illegal methods.

My worry for the Intaki seccession political movement is that sooner or later the Federal Intelligence service will look to destroy it. The Federation dont take kindly to anyone wanting to leave the Fed. Anyone left who would want to continue would be driven underground, and be left with the only option of an armed struggle for independence. Which the Federation goverment would call terrorists.

If the Federal Intelligence service did try to destroy the Intaki seccession movement where would you stand Ixiris. With the goverment or your brothers who's policies you do not agree with.



We know you are no friend of the Intaki seccession movement, but you can only speak for yourself. You do not speak for the Intaki people.



I dont know if that is exactly true. Some Intaki like yourself are pro Fed, some pro Caldari, some pro seccession, some maybe pro Caldari pro seccession. So what the Intaki want id say is still to be decided.

We dont get to dictate your affairs, we can give donations to political parties who's policies we agree with. Intaki Seccession

TomHorn-haan's comments are nothing at all like anteriograde amnesia, in my opinion.