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Juniper Weatherwax
Industrial Waste Removal Services
#21 - 2013-10-16 10:29:50 UTC
Doctor Nakajima wrote:


One group, two groups three groups. Despite the meaning of word 'group', it is clearly a singular word. You had nothing better to say?



A group, implies more than one. An Item would be one.

One player cannot 'band' together.

A group of two or more players can band together to form a group.

Sorry if you found this to be confusing.
whaynethepain
#22 - 2013-10-16 22:31:50 UTC
He probly ment it in, like future tense, when one groups together...

Yea, I spelt my name wrong and din't use capitols, but 'least i can comprehend what peoples is saying.

And notice i didn't call you a ***-lord, because i am actually nice deep down inside.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.
Castles
Sovereign Power Company
#23 - 2013-10-17 01:15:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Castles
Juniper Weatherwax wrote:
Doctor Nakajima wrote:


One group, two groups three groups. Despite the meaning of word 'group', it is clearly a singular word. You had nothing better to say?



A group, implies more than one. An Item would be one.

One player cannot 'band' together.

A group of two or more players can band together to form a group.

Sorry if you found this to be confusing.



You're wrong. A group/the group, a team/the team, a person/the person, an item/the item are all considered single entities. Groups, teams, persons, items are all plural. It doesn't matter what is implied. English grammar isn't a game of implication, you silly person.

In English, a sentence can only be grammatically correct if the subject agrees with the verb. To help figure out what the subject is, remove the phrase following the word "of" until you hit the verb...

"When a group of people bands together for..." can be logically reduced to "When a group bands together for..." If you do not understand this, google "English grammar rules".

The first in each case is an example of correct usage when a singular noun is the subject and the verb agrees, while the second is wrong because there isn't agreement between the subject and verb:


"That team travels in separate cars to the game."
vs.
"That team travel in separate cars to the game."

"The group bands together for super fun times."
vs.
"The group band together for super fun times."

"This person is learning."
vs.
"This person are learning."
Castles
Sovereign Power Company
#24 - 2013-10-17 01:44:22 UTC
Castles wrote:
Juniper Weatherwax wrote:
Doctor Nakajima wrote:


One group, two groups three groups. Despite the meaning of word 'group', it is clearly a singular word. You had nothing better to say?



A group, implies more than one. An Item would be one.

One player cannot 'band' together.

A group of two or more players can band together to form a group.

Sorry if you found this to be confusing.



You're wrong. A group/the group, a team/the team, a person/the person, an item/the item are all considered single entities. Groups, teams, persons, items are all plural. It doesn't matter what is implied. English grammar isn't a game of implication, you silly person.

In English, a sentence can only be grammatically correct if the subject agrees with the verb. To help figure out what the subject is, remove the phrase following the word "of" until you hit the verb...

"When a group of people bands together for..." can be logically reduced to "When a group bands together for..." If you do not understand this, google "English grammar rules".

The first in each case is an example of correct usage when a singular noun is the subject and the verb agrees, while the second is wrong because there isn't agreement between the subject and verb:


"That team travels in separate cars to the game."
vs.
"That team travel in separate cars to the game."

"The group bands together for super fun times."
vs.
"The group band together for super fun times."

"This person is learning."
vs.
"This person are learning."



In the original sentence, the grammar WAS wrong, but not where anyone was pointing:

"When a group of people bands together for a specific goal in space, it is very likely that they create a fleet."

... should actually be...

"When a group of people bands together for a specific goal in space, it is very likely it will create a fleet." OR "... very likely it creates a fleet."

The sentence is still unwieldy... I'd like it to read "... very likely it creates a fleet to try and accomplish it."

Meh.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#25 - 2013-10-22 03:16:31 UTC
Juniper Weatherwax wrote:
Doctor Nakajima wrote:


One group, two groups three groups. Despite the meaning of word 'group', it is clearly a singular word. You had nothing better to say?



A group, implies more than one. An Item would be one.

One player cannot 'band' together.

A group of two or more players can band together to form a group.

Sorry if you found this to be confusing.


Even though group contains more than one item, it's a singular noun, not plural. So the verb follows the singular, and a group bands together. Seems odd logically, but grammatically that's how it is.
Stamin Primer
Echelon Research
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2013-11-01 13:14:07 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
Thanks so much for the feature, CCP.

I have to say that you are really awesome on the community front. The API and data dump have meant I was able to create Fleet-Up and take it into areas that would have been impossible without that data. The community team have also been really great via email and of course this feature has spurred me on to do more development on the service.

Thanks again!


Stamin Primer wrote:
Used this in an alliance, and is extremely useful for keeping track of fleet members, along with storing fleet fits and other things. Only downside of this tool is that you must keep your ingame browser at all times for the tracking feature to work.


Awesome :) Yeah it is a shame about the browser requirement. There was some talk before about adding fleet data into the API. If that happens then we can say goodbye to the IGB requirement for fleet tracking! :)



Hell yes!
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