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Grendel Sickswitch
#1 - 2013-11-01 00:19:44 UTC
EVE players like to tell people how "complex" and "deep" the game is, and when you start it certainly seems that way, but after a few weeks it becomes apparent that the game is no more complex than most and in fact, less so than many.

In EVE there are 5 things you can do;

PVP
missions
gathering (mining, salvaging, exploration)
manufacture
trade

In addition there are a few hundred skills that enable you to be a tiny bit better at one of the 5 activities.

This all happens in a few hundred areas that are all essentially the same.

and that's EVE.

Cool
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2013-11-01 00:27:19 UTC
Eh, if you're going for reductionism, why not just boil it down to two things:

• Play.
• Not play.

It's about as useful a breakdown.
Na Und
Galactronics
#3 - 2013-11-01 00:27:22 UTC
I subscribe, log on once in a while, and maybe make a post on the forums when the whining gets too fierce.

Play the game? Don't have time for it . . . although I rat the belts in my home system when I have 20 minutes to spare. Love those metal scraps, yay.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-11-01 00:30:07 UTC
It's all about posting. I hate space.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2013-11-01 00:30:32 UTC
Please sir, regale us with stories of your homeland called WoW and how deep and complex the Pandaverse has become.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Grendel Sickswitch
#6 - 2013-11-01 00:34:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eh, if you're going for reductionism, why not just boil it down to two things:

• Play.
• Not play.

It's about as useful a breakdown.


because playing eve is not about not playing eve.

Idea
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2013-11-01 00:36:32 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Eh, if you're going for reductionism, why not just boil it down to two things:

• Play.
• Not play.

It's about as useful a breakdown.

because playing eve is not about not playing eve.
Idea

Of course it is. There are tons of stuff to do in EVE that entail not playing the game.
Grendel Sickswitch
#8 - 2013-11-01 00:36:51 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Please sir, regale us with stories of your homeland called WoW and how deep and complex the Pandaverse has become.







WoW? is that like dwarf fortress?
Jim Era
#9 - 2013-11-01 00:36:58 UTC
I too play this game known as "EVE ONLINE"

Wat™
stoicfaux
#10 - 2013-11-01 00:38:17 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
It's all about posting. I hate space.

This ^^. Seriously, 100M skill points and I spend more time shiptoasting than flying. =/


edit: to be fair, it's: job and family and (sleep or eve-o).

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Grendel Sickswitch
#11 - 2013-11-01 00:38:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Eh, if you're going for reductionism, why not just boil it down to two things:

• Play.
• Not play.

It's about as useful a breakdown.

because playing eve is not about not playing eve.
Idea

Of course it is. There are tons of stuff to do in EVE that entail not playing the game.


if you're making a beef stroganoff while you mine or mission you are not playing EVE my dear.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-11-01 00:39:47 UTC
Confirming that EVE is both broken and down.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-11-01 00:40:10 UTC
All life is breathing, eating, shitting, and *******. That's it. What a ripoff.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2013-11-01 00:42:53 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
if you're making a beef stroganoff while you mine or mission you are not playing EVE my dear.

Actually, you are, but that's besides the point.

The point is that if you're going to skip a huge swath of activities in EVE and/or clump others together in incoherent and arbitrary clusters, you might as well do it properly and just boil it down to playing and not playing. That way, you can make any ridiculous claim and have it seem rather reasonable and compelling compared to the original assertion.
Black Dranzer
#15 - 2013-11-01 00:43:19 UTC
WoW combat is far more elaborate and sophisticated than Eve combat.

Go on, just try to deny it.

Walking in Stations as a Social Hub: Business vs Pleasure in Incarna
To Be Me
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-11-01 00:46:30 UTC
People say that eve is complicated because the majority of people that play eve is dumb.

And I dont mean it in an offensive manner, but its true.

thumbs up if you like :))))
Grendel Sickswitch
#17 - 2013-11-01 00:48:25 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
if you're making a beef stroganoff while you mine or mission you are not playing EVE my dear.

Actually, you are, but that's besides the point.

The point is that if you're going to skip a huge swath of activities in EVE and/or clump others together in incoherent and arbitrary clusters, you might as well do it properly and just boil it down to playing and not playing. That way, you can make any ridiculous claim and have it seem rather reasonable and compelling compared to the original assertion.


calm down
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#18 - 2013-11-01 00:49:04 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

EVE players like to tell people how "complex" and "deep" the game is, and when you start it certainly seems that way, but after a few weeks it becomes apparent that the game is no more complex than most and in fact, less so than many.


You can play EVE daily for years and you still see there's a lot to study or to learn. In any other game after 1 month you cap your level, in EVE after 1 year you're still a noob. And you never cap anyway.

One can like or dislike this, but it's so.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-11-01 00:50:28 UTC
Don't forget the forum warrioring. I mean Tippia doesn't actually log into EVE the game proper and play. Just the forums. Only reason they have an account.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2013-11-01 00:51:08 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
calm down
Huh? Ugh

I'm giving you pointers on how to structure your red herrings for best effect and you want me to calm down? That doesn't even make sense…
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