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Revenge and pre-emptive strike on Sansha's Nation for Tibus Heth and the Caldari State

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Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#41 - 2013-10-31 10:25:46 UTC
Bryen Verrisai wrote:
You know, I think the Sansha folks who make themselves visible get a little too much flak. They almost always seem to carry themselves quite nicely and calmly, usually posting with little malice and putting a fair amount of thought into what they want to say. I can safely say that I think I would enjoy an evening drinking with most of them.

Granted, I'd shoot them afterwards. But everything before that I imagine being pretty swell.


Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?

And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.

If we didn't have such incompetent capsuleers here, someone would have said something already.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-10-31 11:53:32 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?

Sadly I have a feeling that the Sanshas are a little too effective at their grizzly business, such that any number you give me would likely be an underestimation.

Maybe someday we'll get to work together to make our friends' lives at the TSF just a little bit harder, Ms. Dea.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-10-31 12:20:37 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?

And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.


Tibus Heth is an evil man.

Sansha Kuvakei is an evil and dangerous man.

Let us not get distracted with "degrees" of evil. While I have opposed Tibus Heth, I have and will continue to actively fight against Kuvakei.

~Malcolm Khross

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#44 - 2013-10-31 12:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Solarienne
So many words, so few actions. When you're done fighting True Slaves, thinking you're making a difference beyond sucking blood money out of CONCORD and the Empires, I welcome the chance to test my strength and the strength of the Foundations.

If you can live up to all the chest puffing you've demonstrated, that is.

As for you, Malcolm, it is sad that for a man who displays so much empathy you have no appreciation of our work. Still, I have high hopes for you, especially as more and more of the people you know step to our side of the line and beckon you to follow. Until then, however, I'll be more than happy to see if that moral compass of yours holds up in a real situation. Show me the real strength of your convictions.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#45 - 2013-10-31 13:14:50 UTC
Why waste time fighting TS-F? There's actual Sansha out there to pop if you're into that sort of thing.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#46 - 2013-10-31 13:18:37 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Why waste time fighting TS-F? There's actual Sansha out there to pop if you're into that sort of thing.


Yes, listen to her.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-10-31 13:38:56 UTC
Solarienne wrote:
As for you, Malcolm, it is sad that for a man who displays so much empathy you have no appreciation of our work. Still, I have high hopes for you, especially as more and more of the people you know step to our side of the line and beckon you to follow. Until then, however, I'll be more than happy to see if that moral compass of yours holds up in a real situation. Show me the real strength of your convictions.


My convictions have been tested many times before and they will be tested many times to come.

The fact that you are so eager to put my convictions to the test serves as more than enough explanation as to why I have no empathy for your work.

~Malcolm Khross

Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#48 - 2013-10-31 13:42:02 UTC
I certainly have no presumptions about my combat ability whatever, so I won't make any statements about my politics that I have no intention of accompanying with action.

...But I will say, however, that perhaps the only thing a Capsuleer can endeavour to accomplish with less quantifiable results then fighting Sanshas Nation forces is fighting other Capsuleers, especially if one doesn't have a specific objective in mind, like destroying infrastructure, or something in that vein.

And since True Slave Foundations likely has relatively little in terms of astral assets based on my understanding, well...
N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#49 - 2013-10-31 14:18:53 UTC
Nice eye-patches.

**Vherokior **

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#50 - 2013-10-31 15:00:36 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
Nice eye-patches.


Thanks, they're all the rage I hear. Though I'm more interested in function over form for the most part.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#51 - 2013-10-31 18:38:52 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:

Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?

And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.


Tibus Heth is an evil man.

Sansha Kuvakei is an evil and dangerous man.

Let us not get distracted with "degrees" of evil. While I have opposed Tibus Heth, I have and will continue to actively fight against Kuvakei.


Including Kuvakei's True Slaves which happen to actually be moderators of the Summit?

Yep… We're are that incompetent of capsuleers that Kuvakei's people have already inner worked themselves into positions of voice and moderation within our community.

And no one bats an eye.

Yet you condemn Heth and actively speak against him, who's crimes are NOTHING compared to those of Sansha Kuvakei.

What a double standard.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#52 - 2013-10-31 18:42:23 UTC
That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders. Besides, "the Summit" is a capsuleer run place. The official Intergalactic Summit is practically unmoderated it'd seem. Particularly by "Sansha".

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#53 - 2013-10-31 18:57:03 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders.


Out of amusement and curiosity, what in your opinion would be a dividing line between being a pretender and the real deal?
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#54 - 2013-10-31 18:58:45 UTC
Sounds like it's about time we reach our to our faction's contacts ((located under Live Events category)) and raised a few concerns.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#55 - 2013-10-31 19:03:43 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jinari Otsito wrote:
That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders.


Out of amusement and curiosity, what in your opinion would be a dividing line between being a pretender and the real deal?


You have yet to show sufficient proficiency at performing the ancient Sansha ritual known as "the robot".
If you disagree, I can provide a dancefloor and cameras for proof to be obtained.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-10-31 19:13:22 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:
Including Kuvakei's True Slaves which happen to actually be moderators of the Summit?

Yep… We're are that incompetent of capsuleers that Kuvakei's people have already inner worked themselves into positions of voice and moderation within our community.

And no one bats an eye.

Yet you condemn Heth and actively speak against him, who's crimes are NOTHING compared to those of Sansha Kuvakei.

What a double standard.


Dea,

I have absolutely no control over who is a moderator and who isn't in the NeoCom channel "The Summit."

Secondly, you know nothing of what I have and have not voiced opposition to throughout my career as a capsuleer and prior to that. At best, you can do some research into the content of my posts on these communication boards, but even then you'd only be seeing a small portion of my activity.

Thirdly, claiming that Heth's crimes are nothing compared to Kuvakei's is ultimately a matter of opinion (whether or not we agree on that opinion). The fact of the matter is that, at the root of their activities, both men sought to reshape a portion (or all) of the cluster after their own vision and elevated themselves to positions of leadership to do so.

Lastly, to assert that I hold a double standard in regards to any of this would require that you actually know where I stand on both matters and then substantiate your claim that I am using a different standard of measurement between both matters.

~Malcolm Khross

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#57 - 2013-10-31 21:23:42 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:
Including Kuvakei's True Slaves which happen to actually be moderators of the Summit?

Yep… We're are that incompetent of capsuleers that Kuvakei's people have already inner worked themselves into positions of voice and moderation within our community.

And no one bats an eye.

Yet you condemn Heth and actively speak against him, who's crimes are NOTHING compared to those of Sansha Kuvakei.

What a double standard.


Dea,

I have absolutely no control over who is a moderator and who isn't in the NeoCom channel "The Summit."

Secondly, you know nothing of what I have and have not voiced opposition to throughout my career as a capsuleer and prior to that. At best, you can do some research into the content of my posts on these communication boards, but even then you'd only be seeing a small portion of my activity.

Thirdly, claiming that Heth's crimes are nothing compared to Kuvakei's is ultimately a matter of opinion (whether or not we agree on that opinion). The fact of the matter is that, at the root of their activities, both men sought to reshape a portion (or all) of the cluster after their own vision and elevated themselves to positions of leadership to do so.

Lastly, to assert that I hold a double standard in regards to any of this would require that you actually know where I stand on both matters and then substantiate your claim that I am using a different standard of measurement between both matters.


Most of my statement was made toward the capsuleers involved in this topic, not toward you exclusively.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#58 - 2013-10-31 22:16:48 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jinari Otsito wrote:
That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders.


Out of amusement and curiosity, what in your opinion would be a dividing line between being a pretender and the real deal?


You have yet to show sufficient proficiency at performing the ancient Sansha ritual known as "the robot".
If you disagree, I can provide a dancefloor and cameras for proof to be obtained.


My moves are insufficient to the task. I regretfully accept the title of pretender.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#59 - 2013-10-31 22:44:10 UTC
According to the late night holoreels, you aren't permitted a sense of humor either. You're being very naughty as far as Sansha go, haven't anyone told you that? Uncle Kuvakei is going to have a fit.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-11-01 07:12:04 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:
And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.

Ms. Dea, only complete idiots or gallentean bootlickers would call him an evil man.
If someone will tell this in your face, feel free to grab your gun and shot him or her on sight, the whole world will say you "thanks" for removing such trash from existence.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.