Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok so we have interdictors, which have their role as bubblers. But something Ive always wanted to do is be an ANTI bubbler. A T2 ship specialized in killed fast tackle and dictors. Since destroyers use small guns they would be good for a role like this. A few things. Since it would be geared towards fleet defense, this ship would be a bit slow for its class, but with high agility. This should keep it with the fleet instead of being used as tackle or in solo pvp. On the flip side it would be very hardy for such a small ship. It would also have very high tracking and optimal for hiting fast targets, and high scan res for locking them quickly. DPS would be a bit low. But you dont need much to kill fast tackle anyway. And the icing on the cake. The Quantum Singularity Projector! Basicly a Web on steroids that only effects small ships.

I made an example ship below. Go easy on me. Please explain if this is op/up and how it could be improved. Enjoy!



Name: Apostle
Hull: Dragoon
Role: Gunship

Expanding on a destroyers role as anti-frigate platforms, gunships represent the ultimate in point defense and frigate screening for large fleet operations. Sporting incredibly advanced tracking and targeting mainframes, they are purpose built to bring to a halt, and then annihilate fast enemies. Equipped with the final word in propulsion jamming systems, the Quantum Singularity Projector, no target is out of reach for this hardy defenders.

Developer: Carthum Conglomerate

Carthum ships are the very embodiment of the Amarrian warfare philosophy. Possessing sturdy armor and advanced weapon system they provide a nice mix of offense and defense.

Amarr Destroyer Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to Small Energy Turret Cap Use per level.
4% bonus to All Armor Resists per level.

Gunships Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage per level.
10% bonus to range of Quantum Singularity Projectors per level.

Role Bonus: 50% bonus to Small Energy Turret tracking and optimal range per level.

Can fit Quantum Singularity Projectors

Slot layout: 6H, 3M, 4L : 4 Turrets
Fittings: 70 PWG, 200 CPU
Defense (shields/armor/hull): 800/1300/900
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0/20/70/87.5
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50/35/62.5/80
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s): 850/300/bad at math
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 210/bad at math/bad at math/4.5
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 65km/750/7
Sensor strength: 15 Radar
Signature radius: 85



Quantum Singularity Projector
High slot
Would deactivate all prop mods (AB/MWD/MJD/Jump drives)
Suffers stacking penalty with webs
30km Base range. 45km with max Gunships skill from hull
5 sec duration

...Isn't this an assault frigate with a dumb, overpowered ewar mod?

On the on hand I would really like to see a thing like a heavy assault destroyer or something like a small variant of the command ships with all its pros and cons.

On the other hand it could be usefull to propose one thing at a time. Currently, dear OP, you are suggesting two things. A new ship and a new module, which is in my eyes clearly too strong. From my perspective the ship itself would need some real downsides, like slow warp acceleration and/or a paperthin tank to make it viable in combat.

Perhaps you create two threads for this and propose every module/ship in its own thread.

fly safe

Please just come up with the ideas. Leave all the details, lore and exact stats to CCP.

edit: it's way overpowered.

Please, won't somebody think of the balance?

Pfffft.... who cares about balance? It gets in the way of the idea man!!

I'm not sure why half of you are so hostile towards everybody on these forums. But w/e

Changed slot layout by removing a low and adding a mid. Decreased armor HP significantly. This should keep the tank from being OP. It is a destroyer after all, and the sig radius means its much easier to hit and kill than an AF, with about the same EHP

Removed velocity reduction from the QSP. Increased range a bit to compensate.

The QSP would be only usuable on this ship. WHy would i make a seperate thread?

How about now?

Please give me some sort of contructive feedback to make a better idea instead of posting "lol op"



EDIT: Changed agility bonus to small energy turret damage

removed two turrets and 1 highslot

Okay... I'll be constructive.

Why is this needed?

Destroyers (Tech 1 and Tech 2 variants) are already VERY good at mulching frigates... provided they can catch them... which is the point behind destroyer and frigate designs.

Frigates may be fast and furious... but they wont stand up very well to a stiff enough tank and/or wall of high-tracking firepower... which is what current destroyers provide.


And then there is your conceptually overpowered module that effectively leaves frigates as sitting ducks (because speed and being hard to catch IS their tank). Why is this needed?

Wait...I thought the Tier 1 desis were gunships....

What kind of destroyer fits are you using that have a weaker tank than an Assault Frig? (excluding kiting ones) And if you are lacking that sort of tank you should be able to hit farther, harder, be faster, or some combination of the three.


And i regularly deal with both Assault Frigates and Destroyers. 1 on 1 a destroyer will usually kill an AF (and outright murder any T1 frig in range).