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Winmatar for the WIN !
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Alara IonStorm
#61 - 2011-11-18 06:46:53 UTC
Onictus wrote:

Orjust HDFU and get in a BS and pop the damn things with two invulns,two LSE with extenders and a lunchbox it only has 20k EHP, and that is about as much tank as you are getting on it,there are only slots left are for prop mod and guns.

I get 50895 EHP with that setup.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#62 - 2011-11-18 16:07:47 UTC
Sam Bowein wrote:
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
Just because Minnies have the fastest, most versatile ships with a weapons system that has excellent damage, tracking, range, no cap use and any damage type doesn't make them the best!

exactly ! what about their ugly faces and rusty ships ?




C'mon minnie chicks are hot.


I am Gallente and I fly Minmatar - doing so since I started in 06. But any Gallente who wants a real ship cannot fly their own race.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Lharanai
Fools of the Blue Oyster
#63 - 2011-11-20 13:33:21 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Lharanai wrote:
wait until our Scientists develops crystals with different damage types.

AMARR FOREVER, LAZORS FOREVER

p.s. I will never fit AC on my Zealot, all heretics shall burn :)


how, exactly, is a beam of focused electromagnetic radiation *ever* going to impart kinetic energy into a target, or do damage through a shockwave? you sure those are scientists and not lobotomy patients?



Why do you have to destroy my dreams Cry

But seriously lets not start talking about physics, not in a game which pretends to be in space but its physics are more in water Roll

Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2011-11-20 14:07:42 UTC

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Capt Failhard
Doomheim
#65 - 2011-11-20 14:48:05 UTC
Troll.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#66 - 2011-11-20 23:51:07 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
im just waiting for the gay 2TE 3 GYRO hurricane era to be replaced with an even more faggety 2TE 3 GYRO tornado era. more nano more range, more gay.



Considering it only has 4 low slots that may be a little hard.

Orjust HDFU and get in a BS and pop the damn things with two invulns,two LSE with extenders and a lunchbox it only has 20k EHP, and that is about as much tank as you are getting on it,there are only slots left are for prop mod and guns.

Somehow I'm not scurrred.


whatever

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Bomberlocks
Bombercorp
#67 - 2011-11-21 00:21:50 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Hurray it was at least two hours since the last minmatar are the best why have other ships thread*
.....

FYP.

Memes tend to self perpetuate.

I wonder how many people missed the skill planner that allows them to train anything they like?

I wonder how many people remember two years ago, when eve online was referred to as lasers online?

I wonder how many people know which ship has been the most popular for the past three or four years (Hint: It's the Drake)?
Avila Cracko
#68 - 2011-11-27 16:12:23 UTC
I don't think minmatar is so overpowered... but maybe a little...and if it needs a little nerf... then look at ammo and remove one damage tipe it can deal...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Alara IonStorm
#69 - 2011-11-27 16:36:28 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
I don't think minmatar is so overpowered... but maybe a little...and if it needs a little nerf... then look at ammo and remove one damage tipe it can deal...

Make that damage type EM please. Let Amarr Guns be the big EM Dealers.
Avila Cracko
#70 - 2011-11-27 16:58:40 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
I don't think minmatar is so overpowered... but maybe a little...and if it needs a little nerf... then look at ammo and remove one damage tipe it can deal...

Make that damage type EM please. Let Amarr Guns be the big EM Dealers.


It would be logic...
minmatar uses todays technology... and we don't have EM dmg guns...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Alara IonStorm
#71 - 2011-11-27 17:11:44 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
I don't think minmatar is so overpowered... but maybe a little...and if it needs a little nerf... then look at ammo and remove one damage tipe it can deal...

Make that damage type EM please. Let Amarr Guns be the big EM Dealers.


It would be logic...
minmatar uses todays technology... and we don't have EM dmg guns...

We don't have Plasma Rounds or Fusion Charges but the Minmatar do.

Reason I would like EMP Rounds gone is that would make Amarr the primary race for EM Dmg. Well beside the couple of Missile Boats that don't have the Kin Bonus.
Selinate
#72 - 2011-11-27 18:28:48 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Morganta wrote:

cross-train a pair of scissors? Idea

So if every race is better at Gallente the solution is to fly not Gallente...

So continue on as usual.



Well actually gallente is very useful when you fly Dramiels, Daredevils, Cynabals and Machariels.

For everything else sub cap is crap, ho w8 true there are arazus/lachesis using long points because their E-war is crap too.

Lol

I find it almost hilarious to see so much hate on Gallente stuff. Lol


Joke of the day: Gallente boats are mostly blaster boats. Gallente e-war bonus? Remote sensor dampener.

Might as well give a BCU to a sleipnir...
Selinate
#73 - 2011-11-27 18:33:46 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Lharanai wrote:
wait until our Scientists develops crystals with different damage types.

AMARR FOREVER, LAZORS FOREVER

p.s. I will never fit AC on my Zealot, all heretics shall burn :)


how, exactly, is a beam of focused electromagnetic radiation *ever* going to impart kinetic energy into a target, or do damage through a shockwave? you sure those are scientists and not lobotomy patients?


You just made every physicist on earth cry. Photons have momentum, and hence can "impart" kinetic energy.

How can they do damage through a shockwave? Ever heard of an atomic bomb? Want to know how the massive shockwave from that is made? It's the radiation.
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-11-27 20:46:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Fix My Lasers
Planetmaster wrote:
Dear CCP

Please remove others races from EVE. Minmatar is the best and we don't need any others !

Winmatar for the WIN !

Thank you

Best Regards
Planetmaster


What's the point of whining?
This game has no races. Just a few different sets of skills.
You can train this, you can train that.

If you get your ass kicked by some mean ship buy the same ship and kick hes ass. Simple.
Races here mean nothing.

I would understand your frustration if Minnies had some bonus for flying their own ships, like 5% of damage or speed.
Since there are no such bonuses you should train them yourself and have fun.

P.S. You can also train Amarr guys! I heard they love EM damage and nothing else.

Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#75 - 2011-11-29 18:40:12 UTC
Fix My Lasers wrote:

What's the point of whining?
This game has no races. Just a few different sets of skills.
You can train this, you can train that.

If you get your ass kicked by some mean ship buy the same ship and kick hes ass. Simple.
Races here mean nothing.

I would understand your frustration if Minnies had some bonus for flying their own ships, like 5% of damage or speed.
Since there are no such bonuses you should train them yourself and have fun.

P.S. You can also train Amarr guys! I heard they love EM damage and nothing else.

Look, it's not that you can't cross train any ship you want. You can. I'd even say the "skill point investment" argument, where someone says they wasted time investing in a certain race because a race is weak, is a poor argument.

What it comes down to for me is this: if one set of ships / weapons system is so superior to other ships / weapons systems, to the point where the vast majority of the player base is flying those ships / using those weapons to stay competitive, then it makes the game vanilla.

I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I post with my main.
SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2011-11-29 20:07:43 UTC
I think that the lack of Caldari ships mentioned in this thread is both expected and alarming.
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2011-11-29 20:18:23 UTC
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
Fix My Lasers wrote:

What's the point of whining?
This game has no races. Just a few different sets of skills.
You can train this, you can train that.

If you get your ass kicked by some mean ship buy the same ship and kick hes ass. Simple.
Races here mean nothing.

I would understand your frustration if Minnies had some bonus for flying their own ships, like 5% of damage or speed.
Since there are no such bonuses you should train them yourself and have fun.

P.S. You can also train Amarr guys! I heard they love EM damage and nothing else.

Look, it's not that you can't cross train any ship you want. You can. I'd even say the "skill point investment" argument, where someone says they wasted time investing in a certain race because a race is weak, is a poor argument.

What it comes down to for me is this: if one set of ships / weapons system is so superior to other ships / weapons systems, to the point where the vast majority of the player base is flying those ships / using those weapons to stay competitive, then it makes the game vanilla.


I'm not saying you are wrong.
It's just as I said, CCP should make "Hints" on character creation screen which clearly says: Minmatar - best for pvp and good at pve, Caldari - best for pve, Gallente - so-so at everything, Amarr - average at pvp and sucks at pve.

If those hints were made no one would complain why they can't do this and that.
Plus making those hints will be 100000x times cheaper and faster then balancing this game so every "race" could do everything equally.

Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#78 - 2011-11-29 20:34:16 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
I think that the lack of Caldari ships mentioned in this thread is both expected and alarming.

I think the Drake was mentioned once back on page 2.

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