EVE General Discussion

Maybe not necessarily free to play, but BUY TO PLAY.

I'd like you to take a look at GW2. It's constantly growing, not declining, an unusual trend that only MMOs like EVE have pulled of. The community there is good, as there is still a paywall to prevent the hacking/children community - but still has wide access and people like it. Eventually, the people who don't like it that much stop playing, but come back later because they know its B2P and there are no subs. And you end up with the people who're interested in playing, liking the game.

Sure, you could take a look at complete free-to-play games like clash of clans on the ipad, but that is not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting a very strict cosmetic-only store that fits in with CCPs values, and allows them to give greater access to lots more people. I'd say that this could be done through either F2P or B2P.

edit: and about the steam f2p idea, just look at this article published only a FEW MINUTES AGO!

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/30/0-9-of-the-global-population-have-steam-accounts/

No XP boosters or skill packs or whatever. When I say free to play or buy to play, I mean a shop with COMPLETELY cosmetic items. I'm talking about getting rid of the sub and just expanding the current aura shop. It's being done by hundreds of companies across the globe and has a proven track record.

I say no. Eve is doing just fine as is for 10 years now while other games have come and gone.

Second we do not need more players in eve, TiDi is already kicking in in more than a few systems. Eve is full enough as is.

If and that is a big if, eve loses a lot of subs after Star Citizen comes out then they can do something about it. But as Star Citizen is a different kind of game flight sim vs RTS I think eve will be ok.

Then expand. Imagine the universe 10x bigger, that isn't something CCP can support with its current playerbase.

Expand is lame, Everyone wants to play at Jita already. It does not matter how big you make it the majority will stay in Jita and cause TiDi.

There are solutions. What CCP could do is put trading-tax bonuses in certain systems, this would create the need to spread out and diversify.

Also, if you've got a universe spreading out thousands of jumps - regional markets will have more importance. With increased wars as well, importing goods would be on the rise. General higher demand and supply would encourage more frequent trading as well, which I think would make the game much more dynamic. Think of real life markets, where millions are sold every second. That's the type of complexity eve needs.

The aurum store (+ associated cosmetic features, like CQ) was such a colossal failure that the playerbase revolted and the CEO of CCP provided an apology for wasting time on it.

Furthermore, who the hell needs more character slots? Second accounts are far more common.

Take a look at the successful offering of dual-trading plexes. Think about all of the extra revenue this has brought CCP. Now think about similar things which could be done to facilitate getting rid of the sub and/or making the game buy to play.

Dual-training PLEX is functionally very similar to simply buying a separate account. I'm not sure what your point is.

A person asking this question isn't happy with the game he's playing
and would have let go of EvE as soon as ANY game out there was more appealing to him.

Besides that, it's not a myth that people always come back, no matter what.
That's because EvE is real and you know it too.


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That other businesses go this route, does not mean CCP is forced to go it too. Especially considering that CCP
has a unique product, they can literally afford to do it differently. Besides that, it's a luxury worth using for marketing.


I felt free to your remove manipulation attempts from the quotes
and restricted them to the actual message you where carrying over.

Character slots can't fall into this,
because they have impact onto the gameplay.

Yes, but this is actually dramatic. Not only does CCP have to buy way more processing power than now,
having more opinions around doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing,
especially considering that most of these opinions aren't made by persons above IQ100.

"4)" can be disregarded completely.

And this outs you as the troll that you are. ^_^

Besides the stupid "This would probably INCREASE CCPs profits as well." ... dude, seriously ?
You just couldn't resist, hu ? xD And even the "probably" ! PROBABLY ! *LOL*

I'll translate this ...

"I have no idea if this wouldn't just be a huge trainwreck and CCP would go bankrupt in six months,
but it's my idea so i want it to happen!"

Based on your above paragraph,
i would be forced to conclude that "CCP get richer" means that you have no idea what you're saying.


I give you a 7/10, but you made too obvious mistakes. All in one paragraph,
plus the one i translated. The "This would probably INCREASE CCPs profits as well." was way too much.
If you think about it, it clearly displays complete disregard of what'll happen to CCP.


Let's see how many respond until this gets locked. ^_^