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Frying Doom
#81 - 2013-10-30 09:39:30 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Because we're saying it won't.

That's as far as plebian analysis goes - if a goon says 1+1=2, then it must be a lie, and involve Goon Tears and Goon Rage somehow.

Just thinking. Assuming of course we're not dealing with five-dimensional objects in a basic Euclidean geometric universe and given the essential premise that all geo-mathematics is based on the hideously limiting notion that one plus one equals two, and not as Astemeyer correctly postulates that one and two are in fact the same thing observed from different precepts, the theoretical shape described by Siddus must therefore be a poly-dri-doc-deca-wee-hedron- a-hexa-sexa-hedro-adicon-a-di-bi-dolly-he-deca-dodron. Everything else is poppycock. Isn't that so?

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Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Prince Kobol
#82 - 2013-10-30 09:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Fey Ivory wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Black Dranzer wrote:
Goons rumpflustered that they'll no longer be able to mine in peace in nullsec

story at 11


Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change


iwe read carefully what you written, im a small player, i am just me, part of CAS, and fairly loosly organiced npc corporation thats bascially run like a player corporation, when i play, its rarely for maximum gain, or winning EvE, its about having FUN, i refine most ores and scrapmetal at 100%, and most scrap metal from highsec, gives me zydrine and megacyte, you probably laugh at this, but we are playing on totally difrent aspects and levels, i just contract all my minerals, and a few hours later, ill get a pay, i think last batch netted me around 700mil, peanuts for most of you null seccers, but in comparion to what we fly and what we loose, my isks pile up just fine

And this with siphons, give me the ability to go on a adventure to try steal some, it probably be very little, if id ewe succed, but it be something to do, and a mission in its own, ewen if i get blown up, it comes down to, like what most gankers does, its not about the isk, its about that i can, and this DO give me a way to harvest the tiny amounts we in CAS need of rare materials we cant otherwise get, that we have to buy, now we dont have to

If i am one of those that tinker like this, alot of other people will probably reason in the same way


Look, I may be in null sec but I do not have billions of isk.

Don't believe what a lot of people say on these forums that all people in null sec are rich because its all crap.

The siphon units will hurt people like you. People who are not trying to earn billions but a few hundred mill here and there.

Those small group of players who have a pos here and there in low sec will get hit hardest whilst those with pos's in null will just earn even more isk.

Sure you will go out and first and try and steal some moon goo, great, but after a while the novelty wears off and your just wasting isk you will stop, as will many other people.

All that will be left is those people who will fly around low sec griefing small corp pos owners.

These people will bring down there pos's but no new ones will go up as there will be no point.

That is my problem with the siphon units.

They do no damage to the null sec alliances and will only be used as griefing tool against the smaller corps in low sec.

The result will be less low sec moon mining pos's which in turns means more isk for the null sec alliances.

They hurt the small corps, the guys trying to make a few hundred mill here and there, not the big alliances which is what they seem to be aimed at.

I have a good friend who plays the game very much like you. He has a moon mining pos in low sec. He did the math and a couple of siphon units will completely destroy the small profit he makes from the tower.

Like he said, if he gets continuously hit he will just take it the pos down as it isn't worth the time and effort.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2013-10-30 09:54:43 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Hey guys, See See Pee Random Goon here

as usually good grammar and style and completely empty content.
typical goon style of posting

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#84 - 2013-10-30 10:05:21 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Fey Ivory wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Black Dranzer wrote:
Goons rumpflustered that they'll no longer be able to mine in peace in nullsec

story at 11


Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change


iwe read carefully what you written, im a small player, i am just me, part of CAS, and fairly loosly organiced npc corporation thats bascially run like a player corporation, when i play, its rarely for maximum gain, or winning EvE, its about having FUN, i refine most ores and scrapmetal at 100%, and most scrap metal from highsec, gives me zydrine and megacyte, you probably laugh at this, but we are playing on totally difrent aspects and levels, i just contract all my minerals, and a few hours later, ill get a pay, i think last batch netted me around 700mil, peanuts for most of you null seccers, but in comparion to what we fly and what we loose, my isks pile up just fine

And this with siphons, give me the ability to go on a adventure to try steal some, it probably be very little, if id ewe succed, but it be something to do, and a mission in its own, ewen if i get blown up, it comes down to, like what most gankers does, its not about the isk, its about that i can, and this DO give me a way to harvest the tiny amounts we in CAS need of rare materials we cant otherwise get, that we have to buy, now we dont have to

If i am one of those that tinker like this, alot of other people will probably reason in the same way


Look, I may be in null sec but I do not have billions of isk.

Don't believe what a lot of people say on these forums that all people in null sec are rich because its all crap.

The siphon units will hurt people like you. People who are not trying to earn billions but a few hundred mill here and there.

Those small group of players who have a pos here and there in low sec will get hit hardest whilst those with pos's in null will just earn even more isk.

Sure you will go out and first and try and steal some moon goo, great, but after a while the novelty wears off and your just wasting isk you will stop, as will many other people.

All that will be left is those people who will fly around low sec griefing small corp pos owners.

These people will bring down there pos's but no new ones will go up as there will be no point.

That is my problem with the siphon units.

They do no damage to the null sec alliances and will only be used as griefing tool against the smaller corps in low sec.

The result will be less low sec moon mining pos's which in turns means more isk for the null sec alliances.

They hurt the small corps, the guys trying to make a few hundred mill here and there, not the big alliances which is what they seem to be aimed at.

I have a good friend who plays the game very much like you. He has a moon mining pos in low sec. He did the math and a couple of siphon units will completely destroy the small profit he makes from the tower.

Like he said, if he gets continuously hit he will just take it the pos down as it isn't worth the time and effort.


What do you think will happen to the high-value moons in lo-sec which are currently owned by 0.0 groups?

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2013-10-30 10:07:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
What do you think will happen to the high-value moons in lo-sec which are currently owned by 0.0 groups?

let me guess.... nothing?

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Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2013-10-30 10:23:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Fey Ivory
Prince Kobol

i do see the problem for small corps that own poses, but that really dont changes anything for these small corps, a big corps can and could at any moment get their mega blobs and rofl stomp a moon structure they want gone, its a risk, now, before and future, but most players in Eve dont have a structure, and will probably never own one, we the small masses have very little to loose and bascially everything to gain, and it something more to do
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#87 - 2013-10-30 10:27:29 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
What do you think will happen to the high-value moons in lo-sec which are currently owned by 0.0 groups?

let me guess.... nothing?


They will possibly be siphoned all the time but lol doesn't matter anyway

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#88 - 2013-10-30 10:37:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Xen Solarus
I'm still looking forward to the day when CCP releases an expansion that releases absolutely nothing new, and instead completely focus' on all the things that are broken and have needed fixing for years. POS' in particular. For the love of God, CCP!

That will be an amazing expansion!

Until then, i guess we'll have to live with all this window dressing.

We all know why, don't we. It's the damn valkyrie. A game we're not even going to get to play on our PC's. Sad

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Prince Kobol
#89 - 2013-10-30 10:37:56 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
What do you think will happen to the high-value moons in lo-sec which are currently owned by 0.0 groups?


Very little and even if they were hit repeatly , it will have a minimal effect on them where as on a small corp it will have a much larger effect.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#90 - 2013-10-30 10:45:55 UTC
Stop moaning a bïtchïng about pixels or supposed Internet awesome own importance. Play the dam game, since you seem to have plenty of spare time, have fun and stop being negative.

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Frying Doom
#91 - 2013-10-30 10:48:46 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Play the dam game, since you seem to have plenty of spare time, have fun and stop being negative.

Are they re-releasing Dam Busters? AwesomeLol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2013-10-30 10:49:30 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
What do you think will happen to the high-value moons in lo-sec which are currently owned by 0.0 groups?

let me guess.... nothing?


They will possibly be siphoned all the time but lol doesn't matter anyway

it heavily depends of syphon price and how often POS owners (and all other low-sec dwellers) will kill it.

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All Hail Boobies
#93 - 2013-10-30 11:01:36 UTC
Goon tears are best tears. Seriously.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#94 - 2013-10-30 11:08:10 UTC
I'm more concerned by the Golem's new look, really. Big smile

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#95 - 2013-10-30 11:11:36 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Play the dam game, since you seem to have plenty of spare time, have fun and stop being negative.

Are they re-releasing Dam Busters? AwesomeLol



That one was easy but nice shot Lol

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#96 - 2013-10-30 11:18:50 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
it heavily depends of syphon price and how often POS owners (and all other low-sec dwellers) will kill it.

Accordingly to dev blog, CCP is aiming at 10 mil with their material cost, unless I'm reading the thing wrong.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#97 - 2013-10-30 11:41:09 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
it heavily depends of syphon price and how often POS owners (and all other low-sec dwellers) will kill it.

Accordingly to dev blog, CCP is aiming at 10 mil with their material cost, unless I'm reading the thing wrong.

Which is hilarious, since it means we will be able to buy and spam tens of thousands of them purely to mess with the supply chain.

I can't wait until a couple of months from now where all the plebians who have been praising siphons so loudly and shouting down any dissenting view with GOON TEARS OM NOM CRY MOAR start making complaint posts of their own how their introduction has handed even greater control of the T2 material market and profit margins to us. The smugposting on our part is going to be awesome.

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Andrea Keuvo
Rusty Pricks
#98 - 2013-10-30 11:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Keuvo
ImYourMom wrote:
i feel a little bit of sick in my mouth when i say this - but i am actually agreeing with a goon.. pass me the bucket..



sadly i have to do the same. the expansion is crap, the interceptor changes are absurd, the SoE ships are far too powerful, its just one fail after the other.


Xen Solarus wrote:
I'm still looking forward to the day when CCP releases an expansion that releases absolutely nothing new, and instead completely focus' on all the things that are broken and have needed fixing for years. POS' in particular. For the love of God, CCP!

That will be an amazing expansion!

Until then, i guess we'll have to live with all this window dressing.

We all know why, don't we. It's the damn valkyrie. A game we're not even going to get to play on our PC's. Sad


i would fully support this as well. In addition to wasting their dev time on non-eve games, fixing bugs and completely outdated crap like drone control is hard, requires time, and significant effort. changing variables to "rebalance" ships is easy so this is the crap we get
Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#99 - 2013-10-30 11:46:28 UTC
I really don't care for the effeminate sarcasm the original poster is using. I feel like above almost every computer game I have played that CCP works hard to put balance in this game.

Delete this **** thread.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#100 - 2013-10-30 11:48:37 UTC
Goons are why Homeworld: Cataclysm had "Support Units" Twisted

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