EVE General Discussion

In my opinion the focus should move from controlling regions to constellations and the distance to be traversed (with a capital) through one region should increase from 1 cyno to about 6 or 7 or even more. At the same time there should be mechanics that encourage corporations instead of alliances to control sov.
For instance I could imagine a mechanic where an alliance gets a bonus to jump bridge range but a corpororation a reduced sov cost. To make things more dynamic the amount of timers should be reduced to 1 per I-hub and 2 per station.
This would make owning a capital at a given location much more meaningful and people would think twice if they really need to control 6 or 7 regions without actually using them completely, just for the sake of a few systems.

Oh **** that.

That is just terrible.

and you should feel bad.

Yep. No one who has ever lived in nullsec for a decent period of time would say that. I haven't lived in null since the Great War, and the very thought of that "suggestion" still makes me shudder.

Its not terrible, please explain why your cap leaving venal going to period basis should beat an interceptor going by gates by an hour or so. Its stupid. Capitals are OP without being able to jump around like the galaxy is a few jumps across.

Capitals should be regional defense and offense meaning it should be possible to deploy them in a region so they can defend or attack locally. Its how capital ships are used on Earth. They are deployed to the Indian ocean or the Middle East. They don't sit in Hawaii until something happens and magically teleport to a location.

I think the whole of non-mega alliance EvE would agree the way they jump around is stupid.

Caps should be unable to use jump bridges, caps should require a spool down time before jumping again, the longer the jump the longer the spool down. That'd stop all the multiple cyno alt issues wouldn't it since you could move you cyno alt while the jump drive is waiting to rejump.

8 jumps........And five stops for fuel.

Having moved south to north before I spent three hours collecting fuel for 18 carriers. Not to mention you can't carry anything but ships the entire cargo had to be fuel.

.....And forget dreads or supers

Nerfing jump ranges only hurts the smaller entities. Think about it, is it easier for 10 guys to setup and maintain a cyno chain or a 1000 guys to setup and maintain the same cyno chain?

The only real way to make smaller entities competitive with larger entities in direct sov warfare would be to limit the total amount of force committed by both sides. Think wormholes, where the total mass of ships you can bring to bear to a given system in a few hours is essentially finite. However, that would kinda defeat the whole point of sov really.

A better way, which CCP seems to be pursuing atm, is to give smaller entities the ability to actually hurt larger entities. It's not practical, from a mechanics point of view, for an alliance of 1,000 dudes to beat an alliance of 35,000 dudes in open combat. Far better to give the 1,000 guys a means to hurt the larger alliance while avoiding a direct slugfest. That way, if the 1000 dudes hold a bit of space, it might not be "worth it" for the larger entities to attack their space directly.

So, 10 guys move their caps to the deployment area using an 8 jump cyno chain.
1000 guys move their caps to a deployment area using an 8 jump cyno chain.

How exactly does the 10 man gang have an advantage over the 1000 man gang?

That looks vaguely like English, but it made no sense.

So the 1000 man gang sends 50 guys to deal with the 10 man gang leaving 950 behind to defend the campfire. Same result. In the old days BoB kicked everyone's teeth in, across multiple regions, just fine without massive cap fleets.

What you're not getting is that being able to jump stuff around easily is a massive boon to smaller entities living in null. Big entities can get along just fine without it because they always have, and they always will. We know what an eve without jumpdrives looks like. Jumpdrives aren't the problem.

Just like the CFC didn't send Razor up north to fight BL/401k in the last war while the bulk of the CFC went south.
Granted, Razor failed miserably in their task but ...it's Razor, what can you expect?


Living in null as a small independent entity is ALL about logistics. If you cant get your people the right ships, replace their losses, sell their loot, your people die, they don't undock, and your alliance collapses. Toss off your renter shackles and join a self sufficient outfit, you might actually learn a thing or two.