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Rubicon Is A Horrible Expansion

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Prince Kobol
#61 - 2013-10-30 08:52:53 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Christ a couple of guys in each TZ is going to be enough.

Yes, a couple of guys will keep track of all the moons in fountain alone. Yup. Mhmmm. I think we're done here. Lol


dude..

Those new interceptors fitted for out right speed.. probably not long :)
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-10-30 08:56:16 UTC
Kristina Rin wrote:
Quick question : what does the word " expansion " mean in Eve Online ?


It means every six months they change the log-in screen and music...


Oh wait, they stopped making log-in screens. I guess it was just too much effort.
Sinakz
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2013-10-30 09:05:00 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Kristina Rin wrote:
Quick question : what does the word " expansion " mean in Eve Online ?


It means every six months they change the log-in screen and music...


Oh wait, they stopped making log-in screens. I guess it was just too much effort.


I hate the direction this game is going, Letme just mock it and invest more time into it and its forums.... Yeah that will solve everything.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2013-10-30 09:05:23 UTC
I was wondering when the Goons would start crying about the Siphons. Screwing with your business model is it? Holding half of Null Sec suddenly becomes difficult when you need to actively be present in every single system you own, huh?

Lol

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Prince Kobol
#65 - 2013-10-30 09:05:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Here is thing, I am in FinFleet which is in Nc.Dot

For those who don't null sec which apparently seems a lot, CFC and Nc.Dot like to kill each other when ever the opportunity arises Big smile

So I am about far away as being a goon as possible.

Yet even I am able to see what a horrible mechanic siphon units are and how those who are not in null sec alliances are going to hurt by them.

Read very careful.

No null sec alliance is going to be hurt by these. At the very very very most it will be a minor inconvenience for a few people in each alliance.

As Mara Rinn has said, most alliances will just run an incentive scheme.. easy isk for a few.

Those who are making a few hundred mil per month in low sec are the ones who are going to feel the pain.

They are the guys who are going to get shafted hard by this.

What you are going to see is these pos's in low sec get swamped by siphon units and the owners are simply just going to pull them down as there will be zero profit in it.

So that will means less moon goo being produced and those null sec alliances who have moons will just make more isk due to demand.

On top of that since the Goons know what is on every moon in Eve and with their manpower and isk, if they choose to they can put siphons on those moons which will help they increase their own profits.

They don't have to collect the output , just disrupt them enough to make it pointless having it up.

So yeah the TDLR

Null Sec Alliance with moons get richer, small guys with low sec moons get shafted.
Frying Doom
#66 - 2013-10-30 09:05:48 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
And more like a patch than an expansion. They should have called it

EvE: Sorry We Are Working on other Projects.

I'm pretty sure it was like that every time since like 5 years ago already, don't see any reasons to act surprized.

The patches have only really been patches since 2012 before that are some great ones.

and 5 years ago
Empyrean Age

Release date: June 10, 2008

Empyrean Age, previously named Kali 4, is the name of the ninth expansion of Eve Online and the last one in the Kali tetralogy. CCP has included Factional Warfare in this release. In this expansion the in-game story plays a key role and the situation in the game reflects events depicted in the novel of the same title by Tony Gonzales. The expansion allows both individual players and whole corporations to fight for certain NPC factions and battle for control of certain regions of space. Agents provide missions and objectives which alter player and corporation standings with the factions accordingly. This expansion was against the wishes of CCP Lead Game Designer Noah Ward and as such the Factional Warfare system saw no bug fixes, patches or further development until the release of Inferno in April, 2012.


Quantum Rise

Release date: November 11, 2008

The Quantum Rise expansion includes features such as a new certificate system that allows verification of a player's proficiency in certain defined groups of skills by other players and a medal system for awards by corporations. Industrial ships were rebalanced and optimized, with addition of the Orca-class ship, "a sub-capital logistical ship with a mining command focus." The staged delivery of the expansion began with the recent implementation of new technology such as StacklessIO and EVE64 which upgraded the server hardware and streamlined communication between server and client to reduce lag. These improvements provide performance allowing for player vs. player battles with thousands of participants. Further hardware and software improvements are planned. Other features of the expansion include further graphics updates as started in the Trinity expansion; the ability for players to group their vessels' weapons for easier interaction; changes to autopilot routes and avoidance of player-defined solar systems. This patch also brought a controversial overhaul of the speed system.

The older Expansions were just that Expansions, but since they got involved in WoD and Dust 514 and now EvE VR things just go down hill year after year.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2013-10-30 09:10:59 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Kristina Rin wrote:
Quick question : what does the word " expansion " mean in Eve Online ?


It means every six months they change the log-in screen and music...


Oh wait, they stopped making log-in screens. I guess it was just too much effort.

I just remembered this! Let me get my pitchfork and torch.
Black Dranzer
#68 - 2013-10-30 09:12:54 UTC
Goons rumpflustered that they'll no longer be able to mine in peace in nullsec

story at 11
Frying Doom
#69 - 2013-10-30 09:15:55 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Goons rumpflustered that they'll no longer be able to mine in peace in nullsec

story at 11

Worst part is that it is just another half baked measure to sort out the most AFK mining of all, Moon Mining.

Rather than just actually replacing it with an active system of moon mining, that would have actually used some resources to make.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Prince Kobol
#70 - 2013-10-30 09:16:54 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Goons rumpflustered that they'll no longer be able to mine in peace in nullsec

story at 11


Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change
Kristina Rin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-10-30 09:18:34 UTC
guys !!! according to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxatstKwFJk

the guy from goons said the siphon thing wont be much a problem, they got it all covered so i guess this wont hurt goons ...

2014 !!!

Black Dranzer
#72 - 2013-10-30 09:19:39 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change

That's just what goons want you to think
Prince Kobol
#73 - 2013-10-30 09:20:27 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change

That's just what goons want you to think



Please explain why it will hurt the goons?
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#74 - 2013-10-30 09:25:57 UTC
Sinakz wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Kristina Rin wrote:
Quick question : what does the word " expansion " mean in Eve Online ?


It means every six months they change the log-in screen and music...


Oh wait, they stopped making log-in screens. I guess it was just too much effort.


I hate the direction this game is going, Letme just mock it and invest more time into it and its forums.... Yeah that will solve everything.


So what else can we do if we don't want to hurt the game more then CCP is doing now on their own?
And with that I mean not unsubscribing. What other option is left but mock on these forums with an apathetic CSM (not entirely their fault as it looks like they're no longer considered relevant and a stake holder).

Lets face it, CCP is like a 5 year old with a new toy. The newlines wears of quickly and the 5 year old cannot wait to trow its limited attention span onto the next new toy.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#75 - 2013-10-30 09:26:44 UTC
It never stops being funny when the the plebian masses make their usual bleating in response to Goonswarm Federation posters.

Goons: "The sky is blue"
Plebs: "Goons said the sky is blue, therefore the sky must actually be orange! Goon tears! LOL at your blue skies, post more goon tears about blue skies LOL ROFL LMAO"

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-10-30 09:28:34 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Black Dranzer wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change

That's just what goons want you to think



Please explain why it will hurt the goons?


Because we're saying it won't.

That's as far as plebian analysis goes - if a goon says 1+1=2, then it must be a lie, and involve Goon Tears and Goon Rage somehow.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Miles Parabellum
Core Collapse Inc
#77 - 2013-10-30 09:30:32 UTC
Damn this thread delivers.
OP so frustrated his lower lip would be quivering if the toon pic wasn't static, followed by intense goon PR-drone word splitting to make it appear like everybody in the alliance is just dying to be put on patrol duty.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#78 - 2013-10-30 09:32:45 UTC
Kristina Rin wrote:
Quick question : what does the word " expansion " mean in Eve Online ?


Expansion currently seems to mean expanding the IP to other games on other platforms.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2013-10-30 09:34:34 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Black Dranzer wrote:
Goons rumpflustered that they'll no longer be able to mine in peace in nullsec

story at 11


Yet the goons will be the ones least effect by this change


iwe read carefully what you written, im a small player, i am just me, part of CAS, and fairly loosly organiced npc corporation thats bascially run like a player corporation, when i play, its rarely for maximum gain, or winning EvE, its about having FUN, i refine most ores and scrapmetal at 100%, and most scrap metal from highsec, gives me zydrine and megacyte, you probably laugh at this, but we are playing on totally difrent aspects and levels, i just contract all my minerals, and a few hours later, ill get a pay, i think last batch netted me around 700mil, peanuts for most of you null seccers, but in comparion to what we fly and what we loose, my isks pile up just fine

And this with siphons, give me the ability to go on a adventure to try steal some, it probably be very little, if id ewe succed, but it be something to do, and a mission in its own, ewen if i get blown up, it comes down to, like what most gankers does, its not about the isk, its about that i can, and this DO give me a way to harvest the tiny amounts we in CAS need of rare materials we cant otherwise get, that we have to buy, now we dont have to

If i am one of those that tinker like this, alot of other people will probably reason in the same way
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#80 - 2013-10-30 09:39:18 UTC
i feel a little bit of sick in my mouth when i say this - but i am actually agreeing with a goon.. pass me the bucket..

i can see the new fleet doctrines of 200 sisters of eve cruisers, t3 cruisers will cease to be used.
can you image completely covert high dps cruisers in large fleet fights - holy ****.

before you could have a scout checking the hostile fleet location and when they warp, but now they gonna insta warp on top of you and you wont even know it!!

i do wonder of CCP designers ever even think about what they are doing